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More and more I think Cardinals fans are being played by management. Love the Ozuna trade, but that should only be the beginning.
It just makes me sick that Reed signs 2 years/ $17 million with Twins. I just don’t understand how the Cards with their bullpen in the shape it is in couldn’t top that offer. But yet we could give Cecil 4 years and $28 mill. Being cheap and afraid another Cecil signing shouldn’t stop the Cardinals from doing needed business. I love the young arms, and they could fill out the bullpen, but every chance should be given for them to continue as starters as long as possible.
Its does seem as if there is way less trades and free agent signings than I expected. ALso, given the fact that pitchers and catchers will report to spring training in 6 weeks.
After reading that Yelich was made available, I propose a trade of Pham, Kelly, and Tuivelalla for Yelich, Steckenrider, and Barrclouigh. This is presuming Miami trades Reamuto. Maybe even include Bowman, or Mayers, for Ziegler, making it a 4 for 4 trade. I would hate to trade Pham, but we would get a controllable LH hitter with huge upside, and upgrade our bullpen. Miami makes a great trade partner, due to their scouting of our farm system, and the previous Stanton/Ozuna trade talks. And best of all, we retain our premium pitching prospects in case we want to upgrade our starting rotation.
6th Starter ideas. I think if any further trades are made to create roster spots, maybe the Cards should consider a plan to conserve innings on potential 6th starter candidates/ relievers:
1) Alex Reyes pitches out of the pen thru mid May or early June. Then he is sent to Memphis to build up his pitch count as a starter.
2) Hudson, Helsley, Gomber, and Gant start at Memphis. Hudson and/or Helsley get called up, and are moved to the pen at the end of July/ early August. This is presuming no injuries occur among the starters, in which case I would think that Gant or Gomber, depending on their performance at Memphis could fill in on a shorter term basis in the rotation.Granted 2 roster spots would be needed, but surely Helsley and Hudson would get a look in September at least any way.
I think we should sign Addison Reed, and seek a trade for Longoria and Archer. Maybe Gyorko, Kelly, and Fernandez for those 2.
Gallen, Sierra, and Castano are other 3 minor leaguers in Ozuna deal. Sorry to see Sierra go, but the others don’t hurt as much.
Maybe I am too impatient, but I will consider it a failure if we do not add someone TODAY. Like Ozuna and/or Colome at least. Management has had weeks to get this done. DO they think other teams asking prices are going to all of sudden drop? Those are 2 pressing needs. I also feel opening up a roster spot or 2 through trade for some young Rule 5 candidates. There are several intriguing prospects available.
There is getting to be a logjam for starters at AA and AAA. The potential trades, Stanton or others, should thin this situation down. But I wonder if some of the current starters would be moved to the pen. Keep 2 of our top prospects in starters roles as 6th/7th starters. I think Helsley, Hudson, and Alcantara could be candidates for the St Louis builpen with their top notch stuff. And Derian Gonzalez could move very fast as a reliever.
Really curious trading Diaz for a low A outfielder. This is the bet offer they could get? I would rather have kept for middle imfield insurance. I can think of only 2 reasons they would do this. !) His salary wouldn’t be justifiable for someone who may not make the team. Or 2) THey need to clear a roster spot, maybe they have a free agent ready to sign, or An eye on someone exposed in the Rule 5 draft.
Shouldn’t the Cardinals get an idea if Stanton will accept a trade to STL first, (Maybe they privately do, but doubt it) and if so, aren’t we just being pawns in this game to help MIami get a better offer from another team? If he stays healthy, my thought is that he will opt out after 3 years and sign with the Dodgers.
I am curious about the current roster at Memphis as anyone can be taken in the Rule 5 minor league phase below Memphis. Where could I find current info on this?
And projecting next year, who would the Cardinals need to protect from Rule 5? I am thinking Helsley, Fernandez, Woodford, and Hicks, possibly?
Also if Stanton has anything close to his production in 2017 for the next 3 years, he may opt out. With Harper, Machado, and Trout hitting free agency salaries, their salaries will sadly get ton$40-$50 Mill a year.
Report says Cards offered Piscotty and Grichuk for Stanton. I am assuming such a low offer would indicate we’d pay Stantons entire salary.
Good move protecting Derian Gonzalez. (I had a feeling the Padres would have taken him, as they could have for the third year in a row.)I have always been high on him. He could move quickly as a reliever, and we need relievers for sure. Too bad we couldn’t find a spot for Wisdom. Seems funny for a team not scoring runs to bypass a player who hit 30+ home runs. I would like to at least seen him play for the Redbirds, given that they gave CHad Huffman (who??) a chance. Also, Martini might make someone a good 4th outfielder.
Malncon too. But Samargzia and Melancon might be better next year. Cueto I think is on the downhill slide. SO glad we didn’t sign him.
And thinking of the Giants, how many bad contracts do they have? Cueto, Samargzia, Cain come to mind. Although Cains might be over or be able to bought out.
Jason Heyward has a full no trade clause for the first 3 years of his contract. I just don’t see him being trading in a situation where he can win every year, to likely a rebuilding mode.
I just don’t think Holland is worth in the neighborhood of Chapman and Jensen money. Plus a draft pick. What maybe 4 years 80 million plus?
I read a publication offering up an idea for a trade. ALedmys Diaz for Kelvin Herrara. That might be enough. I believe Herrera will be a free agent after next year. Maybe throw in Mayers or Tui. That trade actually works for both sides.
As of now, the roster stands at 35, and 36 when Alex Reyes is taken off the 60 day disabled list prior to the Rule 5 draft. I really don’t see Holland is in the Cardinals price range. There are better options out there in Nicasio, Morrow, or Swarzak, which In like in that order, with no draft pick being lost. I think it might be wise to use one of the young kids, i.e. Hudson, Helsley, Alcantara. Perhaps they give the a little time (starting) at AAA to see who the 6th starter might be. All 3 have closer type stuff, and would be valuable using in the 7th and 8th innings, similar to what was done with Lynn and Wainright. Injuries likely will play a role in who does what.
I have wondered also if they are interested in a starter, how about Aaron Nola from the Phillies? Not sure they would deal him, but he has tremendous upside.
I am surprised that Lynn wasn’t traded. Was there no better offer than what you can get for a pick between the second and third round next year?
I think Lyons was our best reliever, and should not be considered for the rotation for 2 reasons:
1) Do we really want to rely more on Cecil?
2) Lyons has had his share of injuries, and may not be reliable for 30+ starts.I think we should have pursued Holland last year. We could have guaranteed him the closer job, and be the one getting a pick from the qualifying offer.
