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December 10, 2025 at 9:17 am #297240
RHH RFer for 2026? Any ideas out there? Baez on 5/1/27 but they do need a warm body out there until then.
All answers besides “Walker” or “Church” are acceptable.December 10, 2025 at 9:53 am #297242Rhys Hoskins or Miguel Andujar platoon them with one of our many lefty OF’s
December 10, 2025 at 11:25 am #297246I think Rob Refsnyder would be a good RH OF bat for us.
December 10, 2025 at 12:04 pm #297252Contreras to Queens for ________?
December 10, 2025 at 1:53 pm #297264Someone mentioned Noot for Teoscar Hernandez if LA made the $ close to even. I don’t hate that idea one bit after looking at his deal and numbers.
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Owed/Yr
$19.6/2026
$22/2027
$15M Team options in 28&29 with an injury clause and a B/OIf they paid $14 in 2026&27 and the B/O if not exercised that could work out quite well.
They have to get a RHH OF and more importantly, SPer innings.December 10, 2025 at 2:52 pm #297270162 Games x 5 innings/game = 810 innings are needed. The following projections are from B/R fyi.
Libby – 126
McGreevy – 107
Fitts – 74
Pallante – 140 Hopefully in BP or gone
Leahy – 74
May – 124
Total – 645
Divide by -162 games
3.98 IP from starters over 162 gamesThat’s less than 4 IP per start on average. And that includes adding Dustin May. They need to go dumpster diving on two or even 3 guys including after adding a guy like Dustin May….. am I outlandish to think that? Graceffo gets a shot to start again?
December 10, 2025 at 2:54 pm #297271
jj-cf-stlParticipantTwo more multi-year contracts left on the roster. At the current rate it will be none by opening day.
December 10, 2025 at 3:05 pm #297277Still so weird after two tumultuous seasons that Roycroft is still on the 40-man/active when there are younger guys (like Cade Winquest) who would have a better chance to contribute for the team in the future. Especially given Roycroft’s performance, he seems easily replaceable.
December 10, 2025 at 3:15 pm #297281JJ-CF, have to add that CF since there is also a JJW I often use…. Hah
I get your point about the two remaining contracts, if I can be a stickler, I’m hoping that there are two or three multi year contracts that are very newly signed by opening day. Ivan the magnificent, Mayson for the Winn and JJW.
Arenado is option 3-5 for most of the teams mentioned, and I’d rather have Bregman or Suarez too.
Contreras and Jojo Romantico are headed to Queens for Tong + another piece.
December 10, 2025 at 4:31 pm #297291Two more multi-year contracts left on the roster. At the current rate it will be none by opening day.
No doubt! Unless Bloom signs a vet the highest paid 40 man player on opening day could be Burly.
December 11, 2025 at 12:53 pm #297334Would Seattle trade Byran Woo for Donovan and Jimmy Crooks? If so, let’s do it.
December 11, 2025 at 1:18 pm #297335Would Seattle trade Byran Woo for Donovan and Jimmy Crooks?
No, because that would leave them short in their rotation. If they trade for Donovan, they will be trading prospects.
December 11, 2025 at 1:25 pm #297336That makes sense. Seems like they need to or want to get at least 1 MLB ready pitcher in the trade for Donovan. Kansas City seems the best trade option with that scenario.
December 11, 2025 at 9:51 pm #297359Do NOT trade Donovan.
December 12, 2025 at 4:34 am #297362I think Tong would be a great get. Someone us fans can get us excited about. And the Mets need a first baseman. Contreras and Nootbaar could be packaged along with a prospect like Crooks or Mautz.
December 12, 2025 at 11:20 am #297379With a payroll projected to already be around $225 million, it’s unlikely the club has the appetite to take on two big deals exceeding $25 million on an annual basis. Still, sources say, Red Sox brass anticipates the final 2026 payroll will come in higher than the final 2025 number, which was around $248-249 million.
The Red Sox are one of many teams interested in Cardinals second baseman Brendan Donovan, but St. Louis still might hold onto him. A new name has also surfaced for the Red Sox, who according to a source are pursuing Donovan’s teammate, Willson Contreras, in trade talks. The three-time All-Star played first base (120 games) instead of catching last year and is thought to be available with two years, $41 million and a 2028 club option remaining on his deal.
This is why I think the Red Sox are the best trade fit for Donovan & Contreras.
The question is, will the Cardinals get better value by trading them to different teams, or trading them to one team and helping that team be a legitimate contender.
December 12, 2025 at 11:20 am #29738014NyquisT
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Do NOT trade Donovan.
Exactly. I would be majorly disappointed.
December 12, 2025 at 2:05 pm #297392Trade 1)
Arenado, Romero, and $18 million (paid 12/6) to Seattle for Comp B pick, OF- Korbyn Dickerson(A+), UT- Brock Rodden (AAA)Trade 2)
Nootbaar, Contreras, and $16 million (paid 8/8) to New York Mets for 3B/1B/LF-Jacob Reimer (AA), SP-Jack Wenninger (AA-AAA), RP-Ryan Lambert (AA-AAA)Trade 3)
St. Louis Gets: OF-Ryan Waldschmidt (AA-AAA)(AZ), 2B/CF- Tommy Troy (AAA)(AZ), SP-Brody Hopkins (AA-AAA)(TB)
Arizona Gets: 2B- Donovan (STL), IF-Prieto (STL), SP-Baz (TB), SP- Pepiot (TB)
Tampa Bay Gets: C-Pages (STL), OF- Koperniak (STL), 2B-Marte (AZ), Comp A pick (AZ)Sign- DH-Miguel Andujar (1 year/$3million), RP-Luke Weaver (1/$2), RP-Justin Wilson (1/$1.5), RP-Drew Pomeranz (1/$2)
1. Wetherholt – 2B (L)
2. Winn – SS (R)
3. Burleson – 1B (L)
4. Herrera – C/DH (R)
5. Gorman – 3B (L)
6. Andujar – DH(1B/LF/3B) (R)/Crooks- C (L)
7. Church/Fermin/Saggese – LF (L/R/R)
8. Walker – RF (R)
9. Scott – CF (L)Saggese – IF/LF(R), Fermin – IF/LF (R), Torres – OF(L), Crooks – C (L)
Liberatore(L), McGreevy, Fitts, Leahy, Pallante
Kent, Pushard, Pomeranz(L), Fernandez, Svanson, Wilson(L), Weaver, O’Brien
I don’t know if Kent was awarded a 4th option year officially or not so I went ahead and put him here. Obviously, Pushard is Rule 5 pick and would have to be kept on the active roster.
In AAA:
Troy plays 2B and CF. If Scott isn’t the answer in CF then Troy can start getting looks. If Gorman isn’t the answer at 3B then Wetherholt can shift to 3B and Troy and Saggese can get looks at 2B while also being Utility.
Waldshmidt and Baez are both RH hitters and can start making their case for LF spot and possibly RF spot to if Walker doesn’t show improvement.
Pozo available to C depth, Bernal keep progressing hopefully. If Herrera can’t stay behind the plate at least 60% of games then give Crooks more time with Pozo recalled for depth until Bernal is ready to get a look to compete with Crooks.
Have Roycroft, Raquet, Graceffo, Granillo all on the 40-man for the shuttle back and forth, possibly Hence too if he can be healthy.2026 would be a rough year, figure some things out, and have depth from A+ all the way though AAA to keep progressing and building from within to be ready to call upon a few for 2027 and more for 2028 and hopefully be competitive in 2028.
December 13, 2025 at 12:36 pm #297422The question is, will the Cardinals get better value by trading them to different teams, or trading them to one team and helping that team be a legitimate contender.
Good question LA. Usually it is better to make separate trades instead of sending two big vets to the same team but if the Red Sox are willing to deplete their farm system then sure why not? I wonder how good their farm system is though? I seem to remember that Brandon Clarke was ranked 3rd in their system which indicates their system may not be that strong. He won’t be ranked that high in our system. According to mlb.com their current 3rd ranked prospect is RHP Kyson Withersppon. I really like him. He was the kid drafted out of Oklahoma last year.
Maybe the Sox have some more pre-arb players we would like as well. Maybe someone like Wilyer Abreau? I know we really don’t need another LH OF but this guy would be an upgrade over what we have and he is making league minimum. He put up 3.2 WAR last year.
December 13, 2025 at 2:24 pm #297439According to mlb.com their current 3rd ranked prospect is RHP Kyson Withersppon. I really like him.
Yes, I was hoping we would draft Witherspoon. If we get him in a trade, that would be fantastic. It would give us two of the top 5 arms in last year’s draft. I also like Marcus Phillips and Anthony Eyanson, both from last year’s draft.
Maybe someone like Wilyer Abreu?
Abreu makes perfect sense. Swap Donovan for Abreu straight up (each team deals from position of surplus to address position of need). Abreu is a 5 WAR upgrade over Jordan Walker in RF, and has won two gold gloves in two full seasons. It would be refreshing to actually have defense in the outfield. That is the kind of trade the Cardinals should be making, but likely won’t.
December 13, 2025 at 3:33 pm #297444Cards add rotation arm in Dustin May. Go big red
December 13, 2025 at 3:39 pm #297447Cards getting May!
December 13, 2025 at 3:49 pm #297451What a great move, now 6 young pitchers to compete and make each other better. I am counting Pallante fingers crossed. Go cards! May stays healthy he would be a great asset.
December 13, 2025 at 3:50 pm #297452Good call CFICT. you predicted it. May is a good cheap fit. I don’t know what he has left But he is young. But I hope they FO IS not done yet.i wonder who they’ll DFA or release? Roycroft or Koperniak?
December 13, 2025 at 3:55 pm #297454Had a 4.96 ERA last year, the only year he has thrown more than 60 innings.
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