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If the FO decides to add between now and the deadline, where would they add?
Injury backfill could likely become the priority, which often times has sideways value for the club, but that scenario doesn’t increase win probability.
Rental relievers are typically abundent, but if they keep their arb arms in Helsley/JoJo….
Starting corner outfielder? Would they add to bench Walker?
Starting pitcher? Gray, Mikolas, Fedde and Matz all have significant salaries.I think the first place they should add is in the bullpen. The reason is because relievers usually have a cheapish acquisition cost and if we add another reliable arm out there it helps to shorten games. We could get by with our starters only going 5 innings or maybe 6. That strategy worked well for Cleveland in 2016. We could see about bringing Kitty back or maybe look at Finnegan in Washington.
They really do need an upgrade in RF but that is a tricky one because I know they want to give Walker AB’s. That is where the dynamic of winning and developing at the same time could be in conflict.
If nothing else get another bullpen arm or two. If they wanted to go crazy and bring in another starter they should target a younger guy with upside and years of control. That could be tough to pull off though.
They will subtract from the current roster. Maybe they link up on a three way with a corner OF and a bullpen arm in trades.
I would like to see them keep Matz in case they trade Fedde but idk if they have any intention on him being a starter again and the price tag he has in the role he’s in just won’t fetch very much prospect wise and idk if they want to pay down or all of the remaining part of his context. I would like him as back up in case we are in contention for the WC and either McGreevy or another starter struggles. He was ok as a starter when he was stretched out this year.
Helsley IDK. If there was a way we could trade him in a three way for a cost controlled 8th-9th inning guy who maybe is having a season like his then I could see them doing that.
Booyah, for “quality” over “quantity”, a team like the Phillies could revamp their bullpen entirely for roughly $10M the rest of the year with Helsley, Matz and Maton.
Cards get back two good prospects vs just bottom of the barrel types….
Phillies were just an example obviously. Fedde needs to go so McGreevy can keep going. Even the “poor owners” teams can afford him so that helps.
I would like to see them keep Matz
That’s the first time I’ve heard anyone say this, and it comes as quite the shock.
I am fine with them keeping Matz for the remainder of the year because the longer we stay in contention the less reason there will be to be a seller. I don’t think is much of a chance Matz is brought back in 2026 though.
What are the chances Arenado is moved? First of all, the NT has value and NA will not just give it away. It will have to be bought out, by somebody. Second, there is no good reason to move him unless a significant payroll savings will result. He is not blocking anyone and the Cardinals don’t have any playable everyday left side infield arm to man 3B. So somebody has to overpay, even if a pine tar rag is all we get. I guess a playable 3B is a possible comeback for a Helsley or Donovan, but 3B seems like it should be a low priority, since we do have one already in NA. I am thinking that nothing very significant to the quality of the roster will happen by the deadline.
Would the Cards entertain trading for Cease? We are obviously hoping for a rebound year, and lesser prospects needed to get him.
I’m not saying it would be some big haul, but Prieto surely has some value in a trade to a rebuilding team…..
International money?
Competitive pick?Am I wrong?
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I am fine with them keeping Matz for the remainder of the year because the longer we stay in contention the less reason there will be to be a seller. I don’t think is much of a chance Matz is brought back in 2026 though.
I’ve certainly warmed to the idea of picking Matz up in free agency after the year. He’s done well for the Red Sox, unlike Helsley and Maton for their teams.
We also seem to really need a LH reliever for next year so why not one we are familiar with?
Thompson, King, and Naughton are likely gone. Rom can’t be counted on. Mathews and Liberatore are starters. Mautz and Hjerpe need to pitch in AAA first. Maybe Veneziano can be the 2nd lefty also.
I agree with the need for lefty pen help, but I doubt it will be Matz.
My prediction is that with decent starting pitching so scarce, someone will offer Matz a starting job and starter’s pay for one or maybe two years. Perhaps it will be a second division team, but their money spends just as well.
My guess is that Matz isn’t all that excited about the Cardinals and might prefer to pitch elsewhere.
Prieto surely has some value in a trade to a rebuilding team
Like, for example, the Cardinals? My feeling is, with our absence of depth, if we can’t use a left side capable infielder who makes contact and doesn’t strike out much, nobody can. My feeling is he isn’t likely to hit much vs ML pitching and his D is probably marginal for the ML game. I don’t know though. Its hard to get anything for a AAA depth piece.
I would not want to bring Matz back. We got one good year out of four from him so I don’t think we need to press our luck.
I would like to see us put together a trade package for Sandy Alcantara. He may not be Cy Young material any longer but he still has good stuff and has two years of control remaining and at a reasonable salary for someone who could be our number 2 or 3 starter.
If they are seeing what they have in the minors why bring in anyone from the outside to block people.
Use the kids at every position and move Heaven and Earth to get rids of Gray, Contreras and Arenado.
Put a AAA team on the field and watch them grow.
How many of those “kids” do they hurt their development by bringing them up too early. Haven’t we already done that with Gorman and Walker. I agree that we could replace Contreras and Arenado with what the Cardinals already have but they don’t have enough starting pitchers ready to replace Gray, also.
You mean you don’t want to bring up JJ yesterday? The radio talk shows and social media GMs are fanning the flames. But if he is brought up too early and fails, their views will turn on a dime. “Stupid Mo rushed another one and ruined him!”
No, Game Card, I’m right. Trade the veteran’s for AAA prospects who are ready or near ready for the majors. Lower the payroll to sixty million and battle the Pirates for 4th place. That would be fun. I have to say it couldn’t be any worse than watching the crap we see every day now.
Imagine a local beat reporter calling the GM “delusional”! As a reminder, this team won both home and away series vs. the Cardinals…
They were unofficially eliminated in January when GM Bill Schmidt praised the rotation and said Kris Bryant would anchor the lineup. #delusional https://t.co/qcGdZF2EXE
— Troy Renck (@TroyRenck) August 24, 2025
Would Dylon Cease be a trade target for us? I thought I read where the Padres may cut payroll this off-season?
I’ve certainly warmed to the idea of picking Matz up in free agency after the year.
I would rather slide down a razor blade banister into a pool of alcohol than bring Matz back. Needless to say, Matz is not one of my favorites. He essentially stole $44 million from the Cardinals’ fans and other baseball fans during the past 4 years.
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