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  • #208065
    gscottar
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    Perhaps one way to make a trade for Sean Murphy is to do a trade with Carlson as the centerpiece going back.

    In general, the A’s prefer players with 5-6 years of control going back, but if we sent a package of Carlson, Woodford & Yepez they would get two players with the desired control, plus an upgrade in center or RF. A’s upgrade three positions, Cardinals maximize one position.

    The A’s outfield, as it stands, is atrocious.

    For the Cardinals, moving Carlson would mean pursuing one of Brandon Nimmo, Cody Bellinger or Michael Conforto as a CF, or moving Tyler O’Neill to center and acquiring Benitendi or Brantley for left.

    That is a good proposal. The A’s would surely consider that. The Cardinals probably couldn’t trade for both Murphy AND Reynolds. That would require a lot of prospects.

    So which would be the better result?

    Having Murphy and Brantley/Benintendi or having Reynolds and Vazquez? Either scenario would be good. All I know is that I am a big fan of Reynolds. I think he would be perfect for our lineup. He would give us what we have been hoping for out of Carlson.

    #208067
    slidinlefty
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    I don’t think that package is going to get you Murphy. He’s a top 5 catcher in the league.

    Nootbar
    Burleson
    Liberatore
    Herrera

    If they balk, then it may be Gorman instead of Burleson. Too many teams talking about Murphy. He won’t go cheap at all.

    #208072
    jj-cf-stl
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    I agree slidinlefty. So much competition for Murphy we should expect an overpay.

    #208080
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    If we have to overpay like that, we might as well move to Vazquez and forget Murphy. He’s good but not that good. I would rather give up that package for an elite SP.

    #208118
    CardsFanInChiTown
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    Agree with Forsch 100%, with all of the hype, etc, the prospect price tag is going to be more than we expect.

    Sign Vazquez and use the prospects for an ace.

    #208119
    Ratsbuddy
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    Yahoo Sports/MLB is reporting that Atlanta might be the #1 team in contention for Murphy heading into the winter meetings.

    #208128
    gscottar
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    #208145
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    #208152
    LACardFan
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    I think that’s just more of a case of due dilligence.

    #208153
    1toughdominican
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    The Cardinals needs at SS are about the same as my wife’s needs for another purse or door wreath…

    #208154
    CardsFanInChiTown
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    I wonder if David Price would be open to an full time BP role. They have been linked to him in 7+ years now at least. That could be a great “under the radar” addition.

    #208163
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    It wouldn’t surprise me to see Price retire. If not, some team might give him a very cheap one year deal or a ST invite on a minor league deal. The Cardinals were lucky they avoided that 7 year contract he got from the Red Sox.

    #208164
    GameCard
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    Sometimes it is the trades/signings that you don’t make that are the best.

    #208182
    Thegreyghost
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    The cardinals need a bat whether it be OF or shortstop, in addition to catcher

    #208193
    jj-cf-stl
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    GC, Pujols, Stanton and Heyward come to mind.

    #208525
    CardsFanInChiTown
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    What does a package for Bieber look like?

    Due to the need for a LH bat, I’d assume Gorman is off the table? Walker and Winn I’d put in that group also.

    This hasn’t been given a ton of thought, but would Yepez, Libby, Hudson and McGreevy be an overpay?

    #208531
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    Not sure I would want to send them three pitchers. Maybe Yepez, Libby, Hudson, and Burleson? Herrera might be a trade candidate now as well.

    I wonder what the asking price for Lopez of Miami would be?

    #208534
    stlcard25
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    CFICT, Cleveland will likely want OFers since they have had some pretty poor play out there lately. I’d say something like O’Neill, Burleson and a minors pitcher of their choice may move the needle. They have a AAA catcher getting close to ready, but perhaps they’d want Herrera. Still, I think something like O’Neill, Burleson and Graceffo could do it. Maybe Noot, Burleson and McGreevy if they like Noot a lot. I’d really like this team with Bieber fronting the rotation, and I don’t think any of those guys are irreplaceable from within the system.

    #208542
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    Why do we need an LH bat when we have Burleson, Nootbaar & Gorman?

    #208543
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    I would trade Yepez, Hudson & Nootbaar for Beiber.

    #208556
    MansSearch
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    I love Bieber and think they have to give up pretty much for him. The Guardians need offense and SB is out of their price range in a few years so the time is right.
    Plan B has to be Pablo Lopez who doesn’t have the gravitas or stats but he may be better long term.

    #208562
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    The Dodgers must be desperate. They just signed Jason Heyward.

    #208564
    1toughdominican
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    First rate OF glove for close and late affairs.

    #208579
    jj-cf-stl
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    GameCard said:
    “why do we need a LH bat when we have Burleson, Nootbaar and Gorman?”

    It’s starting to sound like that’s just on their PR playlist of needs.

    I saw Blingboy made out a lineup vs RHP’s that featured 6 lefty bats, and he wasn’t scrounging around AA to do it.

    The only righties were Goldy, Nado and Contreras. The lefties were all off of our postseason roster. Noot in RF, Carlson in CF, Burleson in LF, Edman at SS, Donovan at 2B and Gorman at DH. Is starting 6 lefties vs a RHP not enough? Shall we bench the MVP because he’s not a lefty? HA!

    #208582
    jj-cf-stl
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    I will put this here instead of hijacking the Contreras thread. As of Willsons signing, we expect Knizner to be the backup catcher.

    *Knizner, that’s one of four bench spots taken.

    *Burleson looks like the 4th outfielder, today, and plays regularly (looking at you O’Neill). It takes 4+ outfielders.

    *Gorman looks like the third middle infielder / 2Bman / DH, behind Edman at SS and Donovan at 2B. As soon as someone needs a day off / ouchie, Donovan goes to their position and Gorman to 2B. This could and has already happened a lot.

    *Yepez looks like the DH / PH / 1B and scrambling for PA’s until injuries happen.

    *DeJong is still a Cardinal, even if it’s as a 4th middle infielder. I think he should close his eyes when swinging, but we have to count him as a possible bench player until the ax falls.

    *Walker will not be ignored. If he’s one of the best 4 outfielders…..

    So we have 6 players competing for four bench roles today, and we are looking to add a LH bat?

    The first four listed; Knizner, Burleson, Gorman and Yepez, gives us two LH and two RH bench bats.

    DeJong? Just cut bait somehow. DFA, trade paid in full (Fowler), whatever.

    Walker may need an injury call up. Could be opening day. We may add that mystery LH bat too, using this bench depth in trade.

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