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    #153959
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    gscottar said Goold said:

    The Cardinals will continue to seek some middle-infield depth on minor-league deals, and they will keep tabs on other free agents, such as starting pitchers, even as spring begins.

    Notice that this paragraph lacks any Mo quotes, unlike the earlier snippets. Perhaps Derrick has other sources, but I can assure you that Mo has not been that specific in any Zoom sessions. I will be surprised if they add anyone of substance. (I don’t consider a High-A reliever with three MLB innings like Quezada to be an exception.)

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    Haha. This is funny.

    #153968
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    Nice pickup for the Royals. Benny will be a good fit there.

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    Three team project potential swap of players. Makes me wonder why KC didn’t shop in the Profar, Pederson isle earlier and keep their own projects. Now that BOS has dumped Benintendis salary, maybe they do do just that. Sold very low on Beni, but I guess they have their reasons.

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    Bos to pay 40-ish % of Beni’s 2021 salary. Helps the KC perspective paying 3.8mil in 2021 and rights to tender or non-tender his 2022 arb3.

    #153983
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    Unless the Red Sox turned down better offers, I could argue that they did not sell low. It tells me that his real market value was below its perceived value. He was rumored to be on the block for months so all 29 other teams had plenty of opportunity to assess…

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    It’s sell low compared to all the Bader and Gant for Benintendi discussions here!

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    This is from Fansided

    Specifically, the Cardinals are looking for middle-infield depth on minor-league deals, according to Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, though he did not specify on which player(s) the team is interested in.

    Among the top options available who could make sense include Eric Sogard and Joe Panik. When Sogard signed with the Brewers last winter, the team was hopeful he could be an everyday player in the infield. Instead, he struggled and was designated for assignment halfway through the year. He would come on a non-roster invite type deal, which is something the Cardinals are said to be prioritizing in their search to fill out the rest of the roster.

    Panik, however, does not come with as much upside. While he was a strong player with the San Francisco Giants at second base for multiple years, his play has drastically declined to the point where he struggled to land a minor-league contract. Perhaps the Cardinals look here, but if they want a player who offers upside to play second base or any other parts of the infield, Sogard would be the best bet of the two.

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    The player the Mets got in that trade is Khalil Lee. I have seen him play before with the Royals AA Texas League affiliate. He is a very toolsy OF with a lot of speed and some pop. He was ranked 8th in the Royals system at one time. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him at the big league level within a year.

    #154005
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    Of the Middle infielders available for depth and probably a minor league deal, the guys i kind of like are:

    S Rodriguez- Cardinals killer, last year still recovering IMO…good stick plays everywhere
    Asdrubal- good stick, ok at SS but a veteran
    Goins-speed always seems capable
    Descalso- know what we get, maybe a glory days last hurrah
    Hechevarria- still a great defender and plenty of experience
    Adrianza- last year was not great, but versatile and a decent AVG bat
    D Lugo- experience and a bit of speed
    Keon Wong- felt he never gota real chance, and kind of a guy to keep in the family

    ALL of these guys have red flags

    But we arent talking a starter, maybe a taxi or depth guy. If they have ONE good tool that is worth a shot IMO

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    If we knew the DH was coming back for sure, a Brad Miller type wouldn’t be a bad signing. That is looking dicey now, so I’m ok with not clogging up more at bats on a guy who may not be much better than Carp. Miller had some success in Philly before so it makes sense that they still like him.

    #154068
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    I think almost all of those guys can be got for a minor league deal with invite

    What is the harm in protecting yourself a bit more than MOroff and Rondon?

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    I tend to agree jager. I think we are an injury or two away from having a problem with IF depth.

    #154081
    14NyquisT
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    I think that you can say the same about outfield depth.

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    Cards get C Ali Sanchez from Mets for cash considerations per Rotoworld.He goes on the 40-man roster.A defensive first young catcher.

    #154131
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    At least in the OF you have Dean, Williams, Thomas…and Edman…maybe Capel or Thorres or Toerner …3-4 guys for 3 spots

    The IF depth behind the 4 IF positions…is… Carp, Sosa, then a big drop to Moroff Rondon, Mendoza and even Gorman…and that is stretching it already

    I’d feel a lot better with Hechavarria and Sean Rodriguez or even Descalso… Some guys with some real MLB experience

    and to be honest…Rodrigues I think can play the OF too…

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    Who do you need beyond Dejong, Edman, and Sosa? Carpenter can play 2B for a bit, if two of them go out with an injury. Someone like Sogard would be available otherwise too.

    We haven’t been in a position like this in a while, but if it’s a long term injury, they’ll make a trade like picking up Furcal or DeRosa in the past.

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    This helps the Cards as he won’t be in Milwaukee.

    #154239
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    Agreed. I was a bit concerned the Brewers might land him. As it stands we should still be considered the favorites for the division, despite what Pecota says.

    #154253
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    One less option for the NYM to upgrade at 3B. Maybe the trickle down effect helps the CHC trade Bryant.

    #154259
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    Good point JJ. You have to feel the Mets aren’t quite done since they missed out on Bauer and Turner. Bryant would be a good target for them but you can bet that the Cubs would want JD Davis and others in return. The Mets might do it if the Cubs throw Hendricks in the deal also.

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    With Bryant and Hendricks salaries, surely the NYM would want to offset with Familia and/or Betances, which may be a sticking point.

    ATL and WSH still seem like suitors to me for Bryant but they don’t have unused Bauer dollars sitting around like the NYM do.

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    Yep, the Nats love those Boras clients.

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