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GScott, that wasn’t directly toward you, just a response to the comment. I feel that often times people (not just on here) act like there is no money left and Dewitt might be eating Ramen Noodles every night if they add to the payroll. His $160 number is nonsense, and you would think with the division completely up for grabs, this would be a good year to be less conservative.
Perhaps they have a higher view of some of the players than you do. If history has shown us anything, it’s that veteran acquisitions have a tendency to underperform here and prospects usually get a year or two bump after they arrive in St Louis. I could see this team getting to 95 wins with even a couple strokes of good fortune from Carlos, Reyes, Carpenter, Goldy or O’Neill.
Outfielder Luis Robert and the Chicago White Sox are in agreement on a six-year, $50 million contract that includes two club options, sources familiar with the deal tell ESPN.
Robert will begin the season in Chicago. No service-time manipulation necessary. Sox are gonna be good.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) January 2, 2020
Outfielder Luis Robert’s deal with the Chicago White Sox can max out at $88M over eight years, sources familiar with the contract tell ESPN. The deal guarantees $50M over the first six years and includes $20M club options in 2026 and 2027. There is a $2M buyout on the options.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) January 2, 2020
Another way to look at this is that the Sox have committed $102 MM on Robert before he plays a single MLB game.
Luis Robert being back in the news today is causing anguish flashbacks for many #stlcards fans. He was a tough loss for them, but every poker player sets a table limit. The Cards folded at $52 MM, a lot of money for a 19-year old. Good for the White Sox he continued to develop.
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) January 2, 2020
GScott, that wasn’t directly toward you, just a response to the comment.
Ok, I guess it was the part where you addressed me by name that threw me off.
GScott…. really?
It disturbs and befuddles me when you folks defend Dewitt’s “budget”. Are you concerned about him growing his networth $220M vs $200? You post good stuff typically but so many fans are so ignorant complaining about player salaries when it’s the owners still making the biggest $$.
Come now, we all know that you are the temperate one here. Always wanting to do just a little less than the Cubs do. 😉😂😂😂
Well I have had my moments for sure but I have actually tried to become more temperate lately. :o)
That Robert’s number is just crazy. Even if you assume he doesn’t struggle and is not sent back down we are talking about a buyout of his 3 arb years totalling $48+ million. I dont think any OF has ever earned that over their 3 arb years and probably less than 10 players in the game ever have. It only (slightly) makes any sense if you think the new cba will reduce FA to 5 years.
Betts is going to get more than $25 this year on top of $30 so far in arbitration. So if he does produce like they think, it could be a steal. The biggest part for the Sox is the extra two option years.
I wonder how common these types of deals are going to become, and if the Cards will get in on the action. Would you pay up for Dylan Carlson right now at, say, 6 years and $36M with two options at $18M each?
STC25, if I were the Cards, I would take that deal and it seems fair. A year or two from now, I wouldn’t do that deal for Gorman though due to seeming to have a much lower floor.
Another point of view. Why rush? Has this sign-early strategy worked out well for the Cardinals? Going earlier and earlier really increases the risk.
I am more of a year to year guy. Make them earn it. If it ends up costing more in the long run then I am glad to pay it because that means I got a lot of production out of them.
Another point of view. Why rush? Has this sign-early strategy worked out well for the Cardinals? Going earlier and earlier really increases the risk.
Seems like it’s been a mixed bag, although it’s worked better for the young position players (Carpenter’s first deal, Wong, Dejong, not as great for Piscotty).
Sources from Cuba confirm that Oscar Luis Colas, the Cuban Ohtani, left the island in last hours and will pursue an MLB contract. Colas debuted in 2019 on the NPB with HR on their first turn at bat. pic.twitter.com/kMcKq7eTqh
— Francys Romero (@francysromeroFR) January 3, 2020
Outfielder/pitcher Oscar Colás, one of the best prospects to emerge from Cuba in years, has defected and will seek a deal with a major league team, sources familiar with his plans tell ESPN. Colás, 21, played in Japan last year and hit .302/.350/.516. He’s a LHP up to 95, too.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) January 3, 2020
One scout who has seen Colás believes he’s going to stick at outfield, while another says his arm is good enough for him to play a two-way role. Either way, Colás, whose leaving Cuba was first reported by @FrancysRomero, is expected to garner significant interest across baseball.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) January 3, 2020
Is it known at this point how much of their bonus pool the Cards have actually used? Cuba seems to be the one place where they do pretty well in signing players, so maybe this would be an advantageous spot for them to be.
What we do know is the Cardinals had $6.4 million available to spend, and they did not acquire any of the Top 30 international prospects. Even though they signed something like 23 kids, I haven’t heard of any of them signing for $300,000 like Malcolm Nunez did.
So, hopefully, they can redirect some of that unspent money to Colas…
Only one signing over $300K reported as far as I know, with a number of others well into the six figures. They traded some cap money to LAD in the Gyorko deal. Their current count in this July 2nd class is 32 signees. If they averaged $100K each, at least half the money is gone. You can adjust your estimates up or down from there.
I see no rush to add Carlson. A month or 2 playing every day is what he needs. He may not get that in St Louis. Also interesting is the Cards will have a free move to make on Hicks likely going to the 60 day DL after spring training.
A lot of years, they use that 60-day IL spot on the backup catcher and/or a reliever signed to a minor league deal. Everyone has to hope they just have one 60-day IL spot on Opening Day. That means no new serious injuries.
I see where someone is reporting that Tomahawk Chop said the Braves are signing Donaldson Monday for 4 years at $105 M.
I don’t recall seeing it anywhere on here, but what teams would Fowler possibly be open to waiving his NTC to go to?
Cubs, Yankees, Dodgers, Angels, Astros, etc would potentially be possibilities?
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