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November 14, 2022 at 7:58 pm #206785
bccran
ParticipantI’ll vote for Burleson.
November 14, 2022 at 7:58 pm #206786#5 Burleson
November 14, 2022 at 7:59 pm #206787I’ll take Leonardo Bernal at #5.
The switch-hitting 18-year-old catcher posted a 117 OPS+ at Palm Beach, and away from the unfriendly confines of Roger Dean Stadium he hit an amazing .333/.395/.696.
In a way he’s sort of the position player version of Tink Hence. Small sample size, and only in Low-A Ball, but nevertheless very, very promising. And he’s a year and a half younger than Tink.
November 15, 2022 at 7:46 am #206836#5 Burleson
November 15, 2022 at 7:50 am #206837
cardsfan64ParticipantBurleson at #5
November 15, 2022 at 8:21 am #206838Burleson #5
November 15, 2022 at 8:24 am #20683914NyquisT
ParticipantI had Burleson higher up but I’ll take him at #5.
November 15, 2022 at 9:52 am #206843#5 Burleson
November 15, 2022 at 9:57 am #2068445 – Burleson
November 15, 2022 at 10:56 am #206850#5 Burleson. He has our best hit/power tool other than Walker.
November 15, 2022 at 11:16 am #206855slidinlefty
ParticipantBurleson w/ Herrera Liberatore and McGreevey all a toss up.
November 15, 2022 at 11:51 am #206860#5 Burleson, though I think he likely ends up as trade fodder. He just doesn’t seem like the Cardinals type with his lack of defense. Somebody will get good value from him so hopefully the trade is a win-win if I am right.
I agree with slidinleft above, gets pretty tight after this I think. Herrera and Liberatore still have time to become what everyone thought (thinks?) they would even after a down year. I’ve just convinced myself (probably wishful thinking) that the club is going to put together a couple of their back end top-100ish guys to get an impact P/C/SS. A guy can dream.November 15, 2022 at 2:38 pm #206866PadsFS
Participant#5 – Ivan Herrera
Herrera made the jump from AA to AAA this year and put up a .770 OPS (.374 OBP!) while also getting a taste for the ML….all at age 22. That’s a 111 wRC+ for a 22-yr old catcher in AAA.
November 15, 2022 at 2:53 pm #206868Sounds like Bernal is Just the right age and level tô replace Murphy when he becomes a FA in 3 years 🙂
November 15, 2022 at 3:13 pm #206870Herrera #5.
November 15, 2022 at 4:56 pm #206879Sounds like Bernal is Just the right age and level tô replace Murphy when he becomes a FA in 3 years
Lots of guys look good in A ball.
November 15, 2022 at 4:59 pm #206880#5 Burleson
November 16, 2022 at 1:23 pm #206942bccran
ParticipantWe haven’t had a vote since yesterday at 5pm, and right now it stands at –
Burleson – 15
Herrera – 2
Bernal -1Let’s call this round early.
Alec Burleson is our #5 prospect.
1.) Walker
2.) Winn
3.) Graceffo
4.) Hence
5.) BurlesonIt was suggested that to speed things up, we should vote for 2 prospects during rounds #6-#20. The top 2 vote getters this round will be officially our #6 and #7 prospects.
The voting is now open (name 2 players).
November 16, 2022 at 1:36 pm #2069476) Liberatore, who hopefully will live up to his stuff next year.
7) Herrera, who Hopefully will be the starting catcher next year at some point.
November 16, 2022 at 2:34 pm #206963I was pretty confident in the first 5 and they came in the right order. Now it gets trickier. Herrera had a really odd season where the Cardinals didn’t let him play much, then didn’t send him to the AFL, and now they are openly shopping for a catcher outside the organization. That tells me their faith in Herrera has gone down significantly. Liberatore has been all over the place the past 2 seasons mostly looking either great or terrible with not a ton of in between. But he’s young still and the fact that he can find great sometimes gives me hope. There’s also Baez with all his tools but so far a propensity for getting hurt. There’s Bernal, but he’s still very young and developing good catchers is so extremely difficult. And then there’s Hjerpe who didn’t pitch at all, but looks really exciting. You could throw Machado and Moises Gomez in this group too, but to me they’re the top of the next tier. I’ll just go by gut here:
#6: Liberatore
#7: HjerpeNovember 16, 2022 at 2:46 pm #206964
stlcard25Participant6 Ivan Herrera
7 Matthew Liberatore
November 16, 2022 at 3:02 pm #206965
cardsfan64ParticipantGood thoughts Jnevel! I too am suspect on Libby as well, but hope he pitches well in 2023. Unknown how Hjerpe will do as a pro, but I will buy into the hype.
#6 Matthew Liberatore – LHP
#7 Cooper Hjerpe – LHPNovember 16, 2022 at 3:33 pm #206967Was Herrera often injured? I am not aware of it. I assume Herrera’s lack of pt was due to being on the taxi squad. Isn’t it possible that time was spent with MLB staff? perhaps what people assume represents organizational disinterest was actually the opposite.
6-Liberatore
7-HerreraNovember 16, 2022 at 3:43 pm #206971#6- Zack Thompson
#7- Ivan HerreraNovember 16, 2022 at 5:16 pm #206977If Thompson was in A-ball and we had accurate reports about a 100 mph fastball and dynamite curve, he would have been top three on our list, but since he is on the verge of significant MLB contributions, he will struggle to get in our top ten…go figure.
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