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  • #204079
    SoonerinNC
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    Assuming that we will start that process soon I took a look at our top 40-50 rankings over the last 5 years (2018-2022), using the final lists compiled by Brian using our ratings as a part of his final selection.

    All of the top 5 picks over those 5 years have played in the major leagues except Jordan Walker who should arrive by at least 2024.

    Elhuris Montero, ranked #4 in 2018 and 2019 made it with the Rockies this year. He along with Nick Plummer and Ramon Urias made the major leagues with other teams after being ranked in the top 50 by us.

    46 players ranked in our top 50 have reached the major leagues after being ranked in the top 50/40. Only Lars Nootbar reached the big show before being ranked in the top 50/40.

    Nootbar, Brendan Donovan, Rowan Wick and Connor Capel were ranked 40 or lower the year before reaching the major leagues. 12 players were ranked 20 or lower the year before making it to the show.

    Harrison Bader and Tommy Edman had the highest accumulated WAR among those reaching the major leagues but that is more a factor of longivity than overall talent so I didn’t do much with WAR. A few have reached regular status and accumulated some WAR after leaving the Cardinal organization. However, probably Randy Arozarena is the most likely to have garnered much playing time with Cardinals. Adolis Garcia the most likely other possibility.

    We do have some tendency to cool on prospects over time. Six players who made the major leagues dropped 15 or more places from earlier rankings on the path upward. Minor issue in my opinion.

    Thought the information may be informative as we go into the 2023 rankings.

    Editor’s notes:

    Here is the link to the 2022 community voting.

    Community 2022 Top Prospect Voting

    See page 20 of this thread for the final top 50 vote for 2023.

    #204081
    SoonerinNC
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    Montero, Plummer and Urias reached the major leagues for the first time after leaving the Cardinal organization.

    #204153
    14NyquisT
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    Before getting started we need to clarify who is eligible for our list and who isn’t.

    #206024
    PadsFS
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    Is someone going to start the voting – stcard25?

    #206025
    PadsFS
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    Is someone going to start the voting – stLcard25?

    #206032
    stlcard25
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    I have done it in the past, but this is a very busy stretch for me so I don’t think I will be able to facilitate this year. Hopefully someone else can step up! It’s always fun to see the opinions of people.

    #206059
    CardsFanInChiTown
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    Can we just agree Walker and Winn and start at 3?

    #206321
    bccran
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    25 –
    I’ll be happy to take it through the first 20 rounds, with each poster getting to vote for one player. When it shifts to 5 votes at a time, someone else will have to take over.

    How long should each round be, and who is disqualified because of playing time with the Cardinals?

    #206323
    blingboy
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    I think the cut off is 130 AB or 50 IP.

    If that is what we go with, Liberatore, Thompson, Herrera and Burleson are still in, Yepez and Pallante are out.

    #206333
    bccran
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    Sounds good, BB. Let’s go with that. What about time to vote on each cycle. Is 48 hours okay? Ended at 5 pm every other day? Or should we go with 72 hours?

    #206336
    desmetlax12
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    I think 48 hours is good to keep it moving. You can call it early too on runaways as the first couple might be.

    #206364
    14NyquisT
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    bc, I think after the first five rounds we should go with two in rounds 6-20. It would speed up the process and I feel it won’t change the results. Just saying.

    #206374
    bccran
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    Okay. Sounds good. Let’s start the voting now for Round 1. The voting is open.

    #206375
    stlcard25
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    Jordan Walker #1. Great floor, elite ceiling. I see him as the best OFer in St Louis in 2023.

    #206377
    blingboy
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    Walker

    #206378
    cardsfan64
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    I vote Walker as #1 also. Clear cut top prospect in the organization.

    #206380
    1toughdominican
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    I don’t know too much about these new prospects, but I did notice that it looks like the Cardinals are going to allow Alex Reyes to become a FA. Wasn’t he at one time a Cardinal #1 prospect?

    #206387
    bccran
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    Walker #1.

    #206389
    CardsFanInChiTown
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    Walker #1, call it tonight and move on?

    #206396
    Cardinals27
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    Walker is my # 1 choice.

    #206402
    gscottar
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    #1 Jordan Walker

    #206427
    bccran
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    Okay. That’s 7 straight votes for Walker. Let call this one and declare Walker our #1 prospect.

    The voting is now open for #2.

    #206428
    1toughdominican
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    I don’t know enough about any of these guys to vote, but I can’t help but notice Walker in a landslide. I guess the Winn guy has lost some pt’s in the polls?

    #206429
    stlcard25
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    Masyn Winn is #2…he could end up a Lindor type. It sure would be nice to have our SS for the next 8-10 years.

    #206430
    1toughdominican
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    stlcard25…I would have thought he would win #1. Like I said, I haven’t seen any of these guys play at all, so obviously I couldn’t vote with any confidence. Winn seemed to get all the press during the regular season, so I was surprised when the Walker guy seemed to take the lead in the polls. At any rate, let’s hope one or both of them does as well in the Big Leagues as they do in the prospect arena.

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