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December 12, 2022 at 9:50 pm #208982
33 Ian Bedell
34 Andre Granillo
35 Luis PinoDecember 12, 2022 at 11:19 pm #208986
dblackParticipantThank you!
December 13, 2022 at 3:06 pm #20903333 bedell
34 Pages
35 L BakerTally will be in a couple hours, working some OT.
December 13, 2022 at 5:20 pm #209041Bedell 18, Pages 16, Granillo 15, Buckberger 8, Heredia, Baker, Romeri, Pino all with 3, Scott, Robertson, Reichenborn all with 2, G Rodriguea, W Rodriguez, Rivas all with 1
33. Bedell
34. Pages
35. Granillo1.) Jordan Walker
2,) Masyn Winn
3.) Gordan Graceffo
4.) Tink Hence
5.) Alec Burleson
6.) Ivan Herrera
7.) Matt Liberatore
8.) Michael McGreevey
9.) Zack Thompson
10.) Coopere Hjerpe
11.) Leonardo Bernal
12.) Joshua Baez
13.) Inohan Paniagua
14.) Jonathan Mejia
15.) Moises Gomez
16.) Brycen Mautz
17.) Conner Thomas
18.) Alec Willis
19.) Freddy Pacheco
20.) Pete Hansen
21. Cho
22. Crooks
23. Rajcic
24. Antico
25. Walsh
26. D. Rodriguez
27. Koperniak
28. Davila
29. T. Baker
30. Love
31. Mills
32. Loutos
33. Bedell
34. Pages
35. GranilloNow voting for 36, 37, 38
December 13, 2022 at 5:48 pm #20904336. Scott
37. Luis Pino
38. RalstonDecember 13, 2022 at 7:55 pm #20905636. Romeri
37. Ryan Shreve
38. HerediaDecember 13, 2022 at 9:33 pm #209060
stlcard25Participant36. Luken Baker
37. Patrick Romeri
38. Luis PiñoDecember 13, 2022 at 9:34 pm #209061
stlcard25ParticipantI’m curious what people see in Bedell to have voted him so highly? He hasn’t really pitched, which makes me leery after the Steven Gingery saga.
December 13, 2022 at 9:36 pm #209062Well, he hasn’t retired yet!
December 13, 2022 at 10:58 pm #209068I was just looking at the updated list and am sort of surprised Victor Scott II hasn’t gotten more attention yet.
He only had a partial season as a 2022 draftee. In 142 PA’s in A ball, he posted a 115 wRC+ (Fangraphs) which is confirmed in a sense by the 116 DRC+ (Baseball Prospectus). Supposedly his speed is top-notch (13 SB, 3 CS), which means he could be a potentially plus fielder too. His plate discipline also stands out with a ridiculous 16.9% BB% and solid 18.3% K%.
He has some similarities to Mike Antico, but is much younger and probably has a higher ceiling. He should be fun to see more of next year.
December 14, 2022 at 12:12 am #20907236 Buchberger
37 G Rodriguez
38 Romeri
December 14, 2022 at 5:44 am #20907536. Pino
37. Romeri
38. Scott
December 14, 2022 at 9:30 am #209078
cardsfan64Participant#36 – Jacob Buchberger – 3B/SS
#37 – Tyler Reichenborn – OF
#38 – Chris Gerard – LHPDecember 14, 2022 at 9:45 am #20907936 – Luis Pino
37 – Nathanael Heredia
38 – Victor Scott IIDecember 14, 2022 at 10:31 am #209083PadsFS
Participant#36 – Luis Pino, OF
#37 – Victor Scott, OF
#38 – Jeremy Rivas, SSDecember 14, 2022 at 11:38 am #20908614NyquisT
Participant#36 – Buchberger
#37 – Rivas
#38 – LBaker
December 14, 2022 at 11:59 am #209088slidinlefty
ParticipantHeredia
Pino
RomeriDecember 14, 2022 at 3:33 pm #209097I’m curious what people see in Bedell to have voted him so highly?
4 at least average pitches with good command. I see him as high risk due to not being able to stay on the mound, but he could be a back end starter with 4 solid pitches. If he can manage to stay healthy he would be fast tracked if he can actually get batters out.
I see Jack Ralston kind of the same, and I see he got a vote at this level. He is intriguing but high risk due to durability. He has the kind of live arm you normally see in a slinger like Carlos Martinez rather than from an over the top power delivery. Has a Waino like 12-6 curve that is his most talked about pitch. But he has to stay on the mound which so far he hasn’t.
December 14, 2022 at 5:49 pm #20911336. Romeri
37. Baker
38. PinderDecember 15, 2022 at 4:07 pm #209257Pino 14, Romeri 12, Buckberger 9, Scott 7, Baker and Heredia 6, Rivas 3, Shreve, Reichenborn and G Rodriguez 2, Gerard, Pinder and Ralston 1
36. Pino
37. Romeri
38. Buckberger1.) Jordan Walker
2,) Masyn Winn
3.) Gordan Graceffo
4.) Tink Hence
5.) Alec Burleson
6.) Ivan Herrera
7.) Matt Liberatore
8.) Michael McGreevey
9.) Zack Thompson
10.) Coopere Hjerpe
11.) Leonardo Bernal
12.) Joshua Baez
13.) Inohan Paniagua
14.) Jonathan Mejia
15.) Moises Gomez
16.) Brycen Mautz
17.) Conner Thomas
18.) Alec Willis
19.) Freddy Pacheco
20.) Pete Hansen
21. Cho
22. Crooks
23. Rajcic
24. Antico
25. Walsh
26. D. Rodriguez
27. Koperniak
28. Davila
29. T. Baker
30. Love
31. Mills
32. Loutos
33. Bedell
34. Pages
35. Granillo
36. Pino
37. Romeri
38. BuckbergerVote now for 39, 40, 41. Tally will be Saturday afternoon.
If anyone is up to it, maybe post a list of worthy prospects that we might be missing or not getting any attention. Maybe a blurb about anyone who really needs to get on the list soon.
December 15, 2022 at 5:30 pm #209270
dblackParticipantHe may not be a prospect but he has a damn good story.
December 15, 2022 at 6:50 pm #209278Bling here are my final 12 for what its worth;
Victor Scott
Adari Grant
Jose Rivas
Jack Ralston
Chandler Redmond
Diorys Guerrero
Luken Baker
Sami Dela Rosa
Gustavo Rodriguez
Andrew Marrero
C,J. Yeager
Chase Pinder
Tyler Reichenborn39.Scott
40. Grant
41. RivasDecember 15, 2022 at 7:25 pm #20928139 Scott
40 Ralston
41 Logan SawyerOthers we should consider:
Rancel Rincon – He had lots of success in the Domican as a starter in 2021, then had several great outings this year in the Complex League and then made a few starts at Palm Beach. Last year I was disappointed to not see Paniagua in the top 50 of TCN list and challenged that one as the only miss. This year, while I don’t feel quite as strongly as I did about Paniagua, Rincon is that miss. I really like the way this guy goes about everything and how quickly he adapts. He’s definitely my favorite unrated prospect.
Osvaldo Tovalin – since we somehow voted in Buchberger, Tovalin is extremely similar in a lot of ways but significantly younger. He’s a really good hitter and semi versatile. And, like Buchberger, he has a penchant for coming up with key RBIs.
Chandler Redmond – Serious power. 4 homers in a game. And he can take a walk. He used to play all over. Now he’s pretty much 1B only. But he does it well.
Scott Hurst – The problem with Hurst has always been that he couldn’t hit – not for average or power. Except that in 2022, he suddenly had an OpS over .800 for much of the season. Plus he’s an excellent defender in the outfield. I actually thought there was an outside chance he could get taken in the Rule 5 draft. He’s suddenly a little interesting again and I’m intrigued.
Chris Rotondo – Drafted as an OF in the later rounds this year, he went out and had a very productive year. I actually really like him (for a late round pick).
Chase Pinder – Always hurt. But when he’s not, he’s an excellent hitter. Plus, he plays all 3 outfield positions well.
Samil de la Rosa – Our best hitter at Palm Beach. And he played all over the infield. Lots of errors, but very young.
Luken Baker – He is like the hulk. Which is really fun when he connects with the baseball. And not so fun when he strikes out or runs the bases.
Andrew Marrero – Did really well now that he’s no longer a starter. Very good reliever results. I’m not really a believer long-term, but the results were great this year.
I’m also a fan of Yordelin Peña and Alfredo Ruiz, but the results aren’t there enough to put them in the top 50 yet. But look for them next year.
December 15, 2022 at 10:53 pm #209289
cardsfan64Participant#39 – Tyler Reichenborn – OF
#40 – Chris Gerard – LHP
#41 – Chris Rotondo – OFIn addition to the names already mentioned above, I would add Anyelo Encarnacion, SS (TCN 2023 #43) and R.J.Yeager – SS/2B to the list as ones to consider. Yeager was undrafted in 2022, but produced well with PB in 97 AB with .803 OPS. On the pitching side, Andrew Marrero (TCN 2023 #44) should be considered in the top 50 with 11 saves and 55 strikeouts in just over 35 IP.
December 16, 2022 at 3:58 am #209293There is a new guy I know little about except he was signed to a major league contract and is on the 40 man roster, so we will see him in big league ST camp. Has 3 option years remaining.
Guillermo Zuniga, RHRP, 24, 2022 A+ and AA with LAD. AA line: 35.1 IP, 3.06, WHIP 1.075, 12.5 K/9, 3.3 BB/9
He was a minor league FA and I don’t think ever highly touted. Does anyone know anything or have any thoughts?
Also there is Wilking Rodriguez. I don’t know that a 32 year old con be considered a prospect. All star closer in Mexican League last year. Signed a AAA contract with the Yankees, but due to prior MiLB tenure was Rule 5 eligible and we took him. 2022: 14.7 K/9, 2.6 BB/9 in Mexican League. Not sure about his prospects for making the roster or sticking, or if Mo will work a deal to acquire full rights.
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