November 23, 2022 at 9:24 am #207463
12. Jonathan Mejia
13. Inohan PaniaguaNovember 23, 2022 at 9:54 am #207467Cardinals27ParticipantPaid - Annual
13 Gomez, who I think is more of a trade chip. I am old school, and do not like high strikeout totals.November 23, 2022 at 10:51 am #207470
MejiaNovember 23, 2022 at 11:09 am #207471
“Great info Bob Reed. As I remember it, high schoolers mostly started in Gulf Coast League, the best high schoolers, JC and small college started in the short season Appalachian League and college kids from bigger programs started in the NY-Penn short season league. Like you said, the stand outs might start higher. I still don’t quite see how the new arrangement is going to work out over time.”
I remember always going thru the draft list and trying to figure out where everyone will be placed. I don’t know what to do with the extended spring/gulf coast type thing and no short season teams how this will pan out either.
Bob Reed..I agree great info. Geez I remember the Jeff Ledbetters and Paul Ellis’s that just could not make their aluminum bat college power translate and it is just a reminder that most big colleges really have maybe 2-3 pitchers and 2-3 hitters that will actually make an impact in the minor leagues. The question is always do they feast on lesser talent or do they have the talent and the willingness to adapt to better competition.November 23, 2022 at 11:37 am #207476PadsFSParticipantPaid - Annual
#12 – Joshua Baez, OF Low-A
#13 – Jonathan Mejia, SS DSLNovember 23, 2022 at 3:12 pm #207487Bob ReedParticipantFree
Jonathan Mejia at #12.
Freddy Pacheco at #13.
Fun extrapolation for Mejia: Taking his 2022 road game numbers X7, you get 553 at-bats and a .291 average with 63 doubles, 7 triples, and 21 homers. Plus 126 walks and a .467 OBP.
As for Pacheco, he’s the pitcher I’m hoping Paniagua turns into in a couple of years, i.e., a 24-year-old reliever who is borderline dominant in Triple-A. Freddy had a dandy 11.5 strikeout per 9 innings rate this year for Memphis, and believe it or not that was the lowest K rate among his eight minor league stops.
And thanks for the generous words, Bling & Lefty!November 23, 2022 at 3:42 pm #207488
Paniagua is a hard one for me. His numbers are great, but I don’t see a 2-1/2 pitch starter that throws 92 mph being successful as a starter or a relieverNovember 23, 2022 at 4:34 pm #207490
13 GomezNovember 23, 2022 at 5:18 pm #207498
I had Paniagua just in my top 10, but I consider it very high risk. Its mostly a lack of compelling candidates after the first handful. I saw him pitch in a game in Peoria, same game I saw Ralston, and he got killed. Hits and walks. Problem was he couldn’t hit the outside corner. Either missed or caught too much plate. He also gave up a ton of fly balls and not many grounders.
But he has a live arm and wasn’t peppering the backstop. I see where he’s over 16 pitcher per inning. so he needs to get that down if he hopes to continue as a starter. I was pretty optimistic about his potential despite getting his head handed to him that game.November 23, 2022 at 6:01 pm #207502LACardFanParticipantFree
12 – Mejia
13 – Brycen MautzNovember 23, 2022 at 7:15 pm #207507Nigel TParticipantPaid - Three Months
Gomez can play all three outfield spots. but he is not a plus defender. He reminds me of Pham in center. Both went back well on the ball because (and this is purely my subjective analysis) both players have a flair for the dramatic. Gomez throws out runners consistently, but the reality is that teams run on him.
He hits balls you swear are outs, and then they are out not outs. He chases strikes and hits the ball in the air. He is strong and a fairly polished hitter. He swings through some strikes, but he doesn’t chase much.
He is better defensively than Burleson and probably Walker at this point He hit every moment he was in Springfield. He hit and hit with power at Memphis. He started hot this winter. Until someone slows him down, he is the fastest ascending outfielder because Walker is still trailing Gomez due to his recent 40-man hurdle being cleared. If both start hot in the spring, an extra year of Walker seems better than an extra pick.November 23, 2022 at 8:21 pm #207510
I’m going with Gomez at this point, but I would be more comfortable if we had some inside info about what led to the U turn in results. And what led to the prior big downturn. One would have to say he is unpredictable.November 23, 2022 at 8:22 pm #207511cardsfan64ParticipantFree
#12 – Joshua Baez
#13 – Inohan Paniagua
Both players scare me a bit too, but Baez has good power potential and time to work on deficiencies.
Paniagua needs some development time as well, but could be very useful in a couple of years.
I like Mejia as well as pitchers Pacheco, Thomas and Willis. Tough to decide on these players!November 23, 2022 at 9:00 pm #207513
I like Pete Hansen, third round, probably a bit more than Mautz. Command of 4 pitches. Decent size lefty like Mautz but more meat on his bones. Needs work like Mautz. I’d give him a better shot at sticking as a starter.November 24, 2022 at 9:39 am #207545
“I like Pete Hansen, third round, probably a bit more than Mautz. Command of 4 pitches. Decent size lefty like Mautz but more meat on his bones. Needs work like Mautz. I’d give him a better shot at sticking as a starter.”
Mautz is sure impressive as a bullpen top lefty. I’m not sure if his “strikes” will be strikes at the next level when the plate tightens up. I think he will struggle with his pitch count, but he will be successful. He and Hansen were both very good picks with lots of talent. Hansen is just got to have to be super and spotting his pitches, which he isn’t bad at that now…at least part of his assortment. Just can’t miss as much at the next level. They both should be in the next 5 picks.November 24, 2022 at 12:21 pm #207560CariocaCardinalParticipantPaid - Monthly
13. BaezNovember 24, 2022 at 2:00 pm #207561Nigel TParticipantPaid - Three Months
13 BaezNovember 26, 2022 at 8:58 am #207621bccranParticipant
It’s been a day plus 18 hours since there was a vote, so let’s close this round out.
By my count, here were the point totals –
Baez – 11
Paniagua – 10
Mejia – 9
Gomez – 9
Thomas – 1
Pacheco – 1
Mautz – 1
Closest vote we’ve had so far. Baez and Paniagua win #12 and #13 by a hair.
So far, it’s –
Since it was so close, does anyone have an issue with declaring Mejia our #14 prospect and Gomez our #15 prospect in order to speed things up a bit?November 26, 2022 at 9:18 am #207622cardsfan64ParticipantFree
I’m fine with Jonathan Mejia at #14 but don’t have Gomez this high. My #15 vote would be Alec Willis. His strikeout ability (even though small sample) is enticing for the future. That said, the majority vote wins the selection and it seems most would vote Gomez in this spot.November 26, 2022 at 9:35 am #207623
I think we should vote for 14 and 15. You never know how the votes will change round to round… personally, I’m not voting for Gomez for a bit.November 26, 2022 at 10:02 am #207624LACardFanParticipantFree
You have to do the voting. For instance, Burleson had the second-most votes at #3, but wasn’t chosen until #5. If we are doing ranked choice for 5 at a time, the results will be different than two at a time. The votes here were based on choosing two at a time.November 26, 2022 at 10:41 am #207625
15. HansenNovember 26, 2022 at 10:59 am #207626bccranParticipant
Okay, the voting is now open for prospect #14 and prospect #15.
Blingboy’s vote has been registered.November 26, 2022 at 11:12 am #207627
14. Jonathan Mejia
15. Brycen MautzNovember 26, 2022 at 6:39 pm #207639flood21ParticipantPaid - Three Months
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