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How fast are we dumping the 6 gallons JJ? Is it possible evaporation is keeping up? Is the bucket connected to anything with a tube? I really want to know more about this 5 gallon bucket!
I ask myself Why Granillo? This is such a weird trade. I don’t think someone from the Nationals called the Cardinals and asked how much it would take to get him with the Cardinals saying “we’ll just take the last player you claimed off waivers.” So it must have been the Cardinals either looking to unload Granillo or the Cardinals suddenly really wanting Soriano. But presumably, the Cardinals could have either claimed Soriano for free or offered someone a small amount of cash for him had they wanted him earlier. After all, he’s been DFA several times lately. So therefore logic says the Cardinals wanted to get rid of Granillo. Why not just claim Soriano off waivers and DFA Granillo? That leads me to think it was some kind of recent personality conflict or something similar to that. Something that just occurred. Otherwise nothing in that trade makes any sense to me.
A half-pint worth just hit the floor, much more to follow J!
From the outside looking in, Bloom just valued Granillo as much as a waiver wire claim he could just dump as NEXT.
Opinions and evaluations vary. Hat-Tip to Kyles evaluation, it matches Blooms. TBD by the players.I don’t think that’s the case here JJ. I think Kyle’s wrong on this one. If they had valued Soriano more, they would have claimed him. There’s something else that happened here. Having watched Andre for several years now, he’s quite the fiery bulldog pitcher. That leads me to believe he said or did something and the team moved on from him because of it. We likely will never know for sure
I’m not sure the Cards had a chance to claim Soriano. Wouldn’t the waiver claim order be by worst record?
J, the TBD by the players will point to the correct evaluation, and it could be yours. All trades are not as glaringly bad as Edman/Fedde, from the get-go.
Perhaps you’re right 27. The Orioles, Braves, and Nationals would have all gone before the Cards. But they still could have offered cash for him and gotten him if they actually wanted him. That would have put them in front of the folks getting him for free.
Trading Granillo (who I liked) is not really the issue. It is trading him for a guy who could very well be gone before the end of March is what is such a head scratcher. It seems out of character for a team so obsessed with stockpiling pitching to ship out a guy with options for a guy without options.
I asked Marmol about it this morning. He said they believe they can help Soriano’s effectiveness which is why they wanted him. He was not specific about what changes they hope to make.
If you have no desire to option the guy with options, take what you can get. Granillo now has a full ST to stick with his new club.
Soriano could be considered more ML ready than Granillo. The trade gives some standby BP innings in case a deal comes along for JoJo.
Looking at the Minor League Depth Roster, I noticed two names missing from the Double A Springfield roster; RHP Edwin Nunez, 2B Trey Paige. Does that mean anything for those two players? Released, Injured, etc?
lrcardinal, thank you for doing that audit, which I didn’t have time to do yet. I will look into it.
Soriano could be considered more ML ready than Granillo. The trade gives some standby BP innings in case a deal comes along for JoJo.
Well he better be or they just gave away Granillo for nothing.
Four teams wanted Soriano (Miami-Baltimore-Atlanta-Washington)….. and they didn’t and all of this occurring in three and a half months. This stinks of a Mozeliak sort of move. A wishin’ and hopin’ magic wand move. OR maybe they didn’t want to just release Granillo…. that might of had a more severe backlash. So Granillo gets a shot at another organizations roster and Soriano gets another sticker on his suitcase come March. IDK, this is just some more stuff to challenge the toughness of true Cardinal fans.
February 10, 2026 Washington Nationals traded RHP George Soriano to St. Louis Cardinals for RHP Andre Granillo.
February 5, 2026 Washington Nationals designated RHP George Soriano for assignment.
January 30, 2026 Washington Nationals claimed RHP George Soriano off waivers from Atlanta Braves.
January 26, 2026 Atlanta Braves designated RHP George Soriano for assignment.
January 9, 2026 Atlanta Braves claimed RHP George Soriano off waivers from Baltimore Orioles.
January 5, 2026 Baltimore Orioles designated RHP George Soriano for assignment.
November 10, 2025 RHP George Soriano assigned to Toros del Este.
November 5, 2025 Baltimore Orioles claimed RHP George Soriano off waivers from Miami Marlins.I think the interesting thing about this trade is that we will know very quickly whether or not it was a good idea. Granillo will likely get a decent shot at major league playtime since the Nats have a weak bullpen, so it should be fairly easy to stack his performance against Soriano’s and see who won and who lost this trade. This trade, as insignificant as it may ultimately be, should at least give us an early assessment of Chaim’s and the new FO’s ability to assess talent.
Its not just about talent. By the second half, Granillo might be doing better than Soriano ever did or will do. But if JoJo gets traded and we need pen innings covered for 2 months until help comes up, Soriano might be the better bet. Bloom and his people know more about where Granillo is than we do and its not just about whatever his stat sheet says at the moment.
I guess that is true if Bloom is really concerned about 2026. He has stated that he is not going to make moves based on short term gratification so you would think he would prefer the player with options left. They must really think Soriano is better.
I mean we are really just debating on who might get the 26th spot on the roster so it isn’t like this trade is going to determine if we win a world series or not but the trade still strikes me as a little odd.
I don’t like the trade, just putting forward what a reason might be. I also like the theory that there might have been a falling out. The stated reason, from Marmol per BW, that they think they can improve Soriano, doesn’t seem legit to me since, if they thought that, they could have got him for less earlier.
We have claimed RHP Zak Kent off waivers from the Texas Rangers.
3B Bryan Ramos has been designated for assignment.
— St. Louis Cardinals (@Cardinals) February 16, 2026
Obviously they are hoping that Ramos doesn’t get claimed. I’m not sure either will help the big club. Ramos is younger and gives minor league infield depth, while Kent has the 40 man spot, and likely options.
The Players Union should advocate for a new rule that if a player is DFA’ed 3 times in an offseason, they become a FA immediately. I imagine for guys like Kent it is quite difficult personally bouncing around weekly on the org you are with. The claim a guy on waivers to later DFA him again and hope someone else doesn’t claim him has really become popular the last few years.
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