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February 23, 2025 at 7:58 am #277062
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ParticipantHow much money have they invested in sophisticated equipment and the instructors who know how to implement it? How much money have they invested in many more roving position specialist instructors for the minor leagues? How much money are they investing in the Jupiter training facility? How much money are they losing from the new cable contract? Unless we have actual figures, there’s really no case to be made either way.
February 23, 2025 at 8:43 am #277063Greyghost, you may not care but ownership may have a different viewpoint. They are the ones calling the shots. I think.
February 23, 2025 at 8:46 am #277064Denton hasn’t let go of the rope yet. I am not sure if he is trying to save face or if perhaps a writer from mlb.com might come at this story differently than a writer from The Athletic. Maybe different agendas and angles. Just spitballing.
Though no deal appears imminent, the #STLCards and the #Astros are discussing a Nolan Arenado trade again. Arenado flexed his no-trade clause and squashed a deal with Houston back in mid-December. Still, the two sides appear motivated to find an accord. https://t.co/mF4Sn4kh8K
— John Denton (@JohnDenton555) February 23, 2025
February 23, 2025 at 9:47 am #277065HOU went over the soft cap last season, after being under during 2021-2023. They are 5mil under today as a projected end of year. Depending on where they want Altuve, maybe the re-engage wasn’t about Arenado at all.
February 23, 2025 at 1:05 pm #277068They are calling the shots and lining their pockets
February 23, 2025 at 4:47 pm #277079bccran said:
Unless we have actual figures, there’s really no case to be made either way.
That is certainly true, but those making intelligent guesses are suggesting the size of the increased investment in Player Development is much smaller than comparative change in MLB figures (revenue and expense declines). My gut feeling agrees.
I believe they will increase spending on MLB payroll when they get the development pipeline flowing well such that they are close enough to being competitive that spending on a few additional players could put them over the top.
How long that takes is anyone’s guess.
February 23, 2025 at 8:16 pm #277093bccran
ParticipantVery good thoughts, Brian. I’d also factor in the loss of revenues from the cable contract as well as an anticipate drop in ticket revenues as they go through this transition period.
February 23, 2025 at 8:24 pm #277100Those are a major part of the general term “revenue and expense declines” noted above.
February 23, 2025 at 9:45 pm #277101bccran
ParticipantTrue. Sorry, missed that.
February 24, 2025 at 1:23 pm #277123From what I read the Fan Duel/Bally TV deal was a $24 million reduction year over year…but they could make some of that up with the streaming package. They were in line to get $75 million but b/c of Bally going bankrupt they signed a new deal with them in November of 2024 for $51 million a year.
Any loss in attendance Management should own that…for neglecting player development and then whatever they are doing with putting together a team for this year that seems to be underwhelming and not exciting the fanbase with ticket sales.
For the last 25 plus years they have been in the top 7 in attendance in MLB and most of those years top 3 in attendance for MLB
February 28, 2025 at 2:08 pm #277248Yep
Despite promised re-set, Cardinals now find themselves stuck in the middle. Column: https://t.co/2wmmI9KzAH
— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) February 28, 2025
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