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September 27, 2017 at 3:08 pm #34347
I recall a lot of fan talk about Taveras for Profar. I do not recall if it was backed by the usual Rosenthal-Morosi types or not, but if fans were talking, there is no reason to believe that front office people were not, too.
Regarding perception of Taveras, I recall he was benched for not hustling at one point, but I think it was way back at Peoria. Since Miller was mentioned, his troubles were at Springfield. Of course, most young men grow up, but unfortunately, Oscar lost his life far too early.
I have no recollection about how the manager felt about him, either way, not that one could probably tell, anyway.
September 27, 2017 at 3:25 pm #34349bccran
ParticipantIn the only conversations I had with people in the organization, they expressed some concerns about his defense. He also had been working on his base running.
September 27, 2017 at 3:27 pm #34350Iff remember right …OT came up because he was raking…they were pushing him as fast as he could keep up
he didnt do poorly with the big league club either, just had a short chance
September 30, 2017 at 11:13 am #34717September 30, 2017 at 11:39 am #34723Matheny’s son Tate received Boston’s minor league baserunner of the year award for stealing 27 of 34 at high-A.
September 30, 2017 at 11:46 am #34725The link onyxgem posted is from CBS, national writer Dayn Perry specifically.
This article is from Sports Illustrated, by Jay Jaffe. It is about the team and the season. It does not call for changes, but closes with this. (He missed the news Mo was promoted.)
“General manager John Mozeliak and company have to ask themselves whether Mike Matheny is the right man for the managerial job; whether or not to bring back pending free agent Lance Lynn; whether age and concussions have diminished Molina (who is about to start a pricey contract extension); what happened to the previously productive Piscotty, Grichuk and Diaz, how to how to fix a bullpen whose problems have now spanned multiple seasons; and how, at the end of the day, they can catch up with the Cubs and the other National League teams they’ll be watching on TV this October.”
https://www.si.com/mlb/2017/09/29/st-louis-cardinals-eliminated
September 30, 2017 at 1:30 pm #34736bccran
ParticipantBDW has already publically expressed confidence in his field manager. Maybe Jay Jaffee isn’t aware of that.
September 30, 2017 at 1:57 pm #34738NJ315
ParticipantWell that’s a bummer. I read about BDW confidence in Matheny. He will be gone after next season is my prediction. Don’t sign Lynn.
September 30, 2017 at 3:09 pm #34739Or BDW is just waiting to see how the rest of the season goes before making any decisions, as views can change from week to week, and if they wanted to make a real change they could just clean house…
September 30, 2017 at 9:18 pm #34758bccran
ParticipantMM will be here in 2018, but will probably not survive missing the playoffs if they don’t make it next year. Refreshing with a reset would be in order.
September 30, 2017 at 9:47 pm #34761MM should be on the hot seat starting now if not outright gone, wonder if he’d get fired by the All-Star break if we’re not doing so well…
September 30, 2017 at 9:53 pm #34762bccran
ParticipantHe has all of 2018.
October 1, 2017 at 3:13 am #34767Well unless this team gets some help and everybody plays better we’ll be right back here this time next year…
October 1, 2017 at 7:15 am #34770bccran
ParticipantThe team will have some additions.
That you can bank on. BDW knows the fan base will not be happy if they stand pat.October 2, 2017 at 8:51 am #34881Yahoo Sports has an MLB manager review with six categories:
On thin ice
Up in the air – Matheny is listed here along with Don Mattingly, Scott Servais and Ned Yost.
Probably safe
We would be shocked
Already gone
Sticking aroundhttps://sports.yahoo.com/mlb-managers-heat-seat-terry-collins-whos-next-224700684.html
October 2, 2017 at 9:06 am #34886The Yahoo guy puts Matheny at 50/50. Despite the decline, and the fact that Matheny is roundly criticized around baseball insiders as one the weaker strategists among the manager fraternity, I figure him a solid 80% chance of staying. I think management sticks with him another year, and will asses things after the 2018 season.
However, maybe there is more to this clubhouse discord stuff than we out here in the bleacher know.
October 2, 2017 at 9:17 am #34888bccran
ParticipantMM will be given every opportunity to succeed in 2018. Any clubhouse dissenters will be gone.
October 2, 2017 at 9:35 am #3489314NyquisT
Participantbc… you know that the major dissenter will be back. That’s problematic for Matheny.
October 2, 2017 at 10:12 am #34912BC if any clubhouse dissenters will be gone MM should be the first one shown the door!
October 2, 2017 at 10:50 am #34923Yadi isn’t going anywhere.
October 2, 2017 at 10:59 am #34925Curious as to who are these insiders and how do they say Matheny is a poor strategist.
Everyone is into inuendos and editorializing these days. Like Jack Webb, I just want the facts. Sure that most do not know who Jack Webb was.
October 2, 2017 at 11:08 am #34926The stuff we’re getting is based on leaks. You hardly ever get to find out who the leaker is.
October 2, 2017 at 11:24 am #34932I see Sooner is still living with his head in the sand, ignoring all of the articles calling Matheny a poor tactician and calling for his firing.
October 2, 2017 at 12:20 pm #34939NJ315
ParticipantThe fact is the facts have been well documented. I am not going to repeat any. You want facts check the 2013 WS and 2014 LCS. Plenty to choose on both.
October 2, 2017 at 12:23 pm #34940bccran
ParticipantWith the performances of some of the players he was given to compete with like Peralta, Diaz, Grichuk, Piscotty, Leake, Oh, Broxton, Siegrist, etc., the front office doesn’t feel MM can be successfully measured in 2017. He will be given some different players next year, and how he does will determine his future with the Cardinals.
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