Fantasy “All Time” Cardinals Draft

[bicyclemike]

Nice grab on Cuellar, Nige. I was mulling through my mind guys who were briefly with our club, then had a lot of success elsewhere and Cuellar completely escaped me.

It’s funny with him as I do not remember him much as a Cardinal. The first I noticed was getting his 1965 Topps card as a kid, and being fairly naive as to the world’s population and various cultures I pronounced his name “Sue-Lar”, so I was like, “who is this Mike ‘Sue-Lar’ guy”.

He was mostly a middle-late inning reliever on the ‘64 championship club. We sent him to Houston and he really came on. I believe his out pitch was a devastating screwball.

[kscardfan]

“I wish you folks back in St. Louis could see this moon.”

122. kscardfan – Mike Shannon, Bench

[Nigel T]

I was down to Cuellar vs Quisenberry and settled on the lefty. Gscottar pounced on Quiz and gave me second thoughts.

[gscottar]

Quiz had a very good career, mostly with KC but Whitey brought him to STL for a couple of years. There are still a few good closers left undrafted though.

[forsch31]

123. Forsch31 – Jason Isringhausen, P.

[bicyclemike]

Had not thought about Ryan Ludwick and his good production for us in a long time. I recall a night at Coors Field where I had a great seat, low down behind home plate. I was looking forward to Albert hitting in Coors. Well Albert did not do much – not sure he even got the ball out of the infield.

But Luddy squared up on two pitches and cranked two bombs way out of the yard. I mean he was right on those pitches and really nailed ‘em. When he was in a groove he really was good, but was not the same player elsewhere. Sort of a reverse Luke Voit.

[stlcard25]

Every pick so far:

Round 1

1. flood21- Bob Gibson, P
2. bicyclemike- Stan Musial, LF
3. jj-cf-stl- Cy Young, P
4. forsch31- Rogers Hornsby, 2B
5. kscardfan- Albert Pujols, 1B
6. gscottar-Dizzy Dean, P
7. Nigel T-Nolan Arenado, 3B
8. stlcard25-Steve Carlton, P
9. mudville-Yadier Molina, C

Round 2

10. mudville-Ozzie Smith, SS
11. stlcard25-Scott Rolen, 3B
12. Nigel T – Ted Simmons, C
13. gscottar – Lou Brock, OF
14. kscardfan – Garry Templeton, SS
15. forsch31 – Pete Alexander, P
16. jj-cf-stl – Ken Boyer, 3B
17. bicyclemike – Joe Torre, 3B
18. flood21 – Larry Walker, OF

Round 3

19. flood21 – Jim Edmonds, CF
20. bicyclemike – Joe Medwick, LF
21. jj-cf-stl – Keith Hernandez, 1B
22. forsch31 – Johnny Mize, 1B
23. kscardfan – Ray Lankford, CF
24. gscottar – Willie McGee, CF
25. Nigel T – Mark McGwire, 1B
26. stlcard25 – Paul Goldschmidt, 1B
27. mudville – Bruce Sutter, P

Round 4

28. mudville – Chris Carpenter, P
29. stlcard25 – Frankie Frisch, 2B
30. Nigel T – Adam Wainwright, P
31. gscottar – Jack Clark, 1B
32. kscardfan – Red Schoendienst, 2B
33. forsch31 – Enos Slaughter, RF
34. jj-cf-stl – Lance Berkman, RF
35. bicyclemike – Mordecai Brown, P
36. flood21 – Orlando Cepeda, 1B

Round 5

37. flood21 – Carlos Beltran, OF
38. bicyclemike – Jim Bottomley, 1B
39. jj-cf-stl – Matt Holliday, LF
40. forsch31 – Harry Breechen, P
41. kscardfan – Bill White, 1B
42. gscottar – Tommy Herr, 2B
43. Nigel T – Reggie Smith, RF
44. stlcard25 – Dazzy Vance, P
45. mudville – Brian Jordan, RF

Round 6

46. mudville – John Tudor, P
47. stlcard25 – Dick Allen, LF
48 Nigel T – Bobby Bonds CF
49. gscottar- Tim McCarver C
50. kscardfan – Vince Coleman, LF
51.forsch31 – Curt Flood, CF
52. jj-cf-stl – Kid Nichols, P
53 bicyclemike – Burleigh Grimes, P
54. flood21 – Placido Polanco, 2B

Round 7

55. flood21 – Dennis Eckersley, P
56. bicyclemike – Dick Groat, SS
57. jj-cf-stl – Gene Tenace, C
58. forsch31 – Whitey Kurowski, 3B
59. kscardfan – Tony Pena, C
60. gscottar – Roger Maris, RF
61. Nigel T – Jesse Haines, P
62. stlcard25 – JD Drew, RF
63. mudville – Pepper Martin, OF

Round 8

64. mudville – Lee Smith, P
65. stlcard25- Andy Van Slyke, CF
66. Nigel T – Jim Kaat P
67. gscottar – Marty Marion, SS
68. kscardfan – Bob Forsch, P
69. forsch31 – Larry Jackson, P
70. jj-cf-stl – Miller Huggins, 2B
71. bicyclemike – Roger Bresnahan, C
72. flood21 – Darrell Porter, C

Round 9

73. flood21 – Rafael Furcal, SS
74. bicyclemike – Jose Cruz, CF
75. jj-cf-stl – Vic Willis, P
76. forsch31 – Al Dark, SS
77. kscardfan – Matt Morris, P
78. gscottar – Gary Gaetti, 3B
79. Nigel T – Mort Cooper, P
80. stlcard25 – Bobby Wallace, SS
81. mudville – Tyler O’Neill, LF

Round 10

82. mudville – Harrison Bader, CF
83. stlcard – Max Lanier, P
84. Nigel T – Eric Davis LF
85. gscottar – Curt Simmons, P
86. kscardfan – George Hendrick, RF
87. forsch31 – Minnie Minoso, LF
88. jj-cf-stl – John Joseph McGraw, SS
89. bicyclemike – Eddie Stanky, 2B
90. flood21 – Troy Glaus, 3B

Round 11

91. flood21 – Lon Warneke, P
92. bicyclemike – Slim Sallee, P
93. jj-cf-stl – Howie Pollet, P
94. forsch31 – Walker Cooper, C
95. kscardfan – Joaquin Andujar, P
96. gscottar – John Lackey, P
97. Nigel T – Edgar Renteria, SS
98. stlcard25 – Matt Carpenter, IF
99. mudville – Julian Javier, 2B

Round 12

100.mudville – Andres Galarraga, 1B
101. stlcard25 – Tom Henke, P
102. Nigel T – Bobby Bonilla, UT
103. gscottar – Pedro Guerrero, UT
104. kscardfan – Danny Cox, P
105. forsch31 – Lance Lynn , P
106. jj-cf-stl – Troy Percival, P
107. bicyclemike – Vada Pinson, OF
108. flood21 – Jerry Reuss, P

Round 13

109. flood21 – Reggie Sanders, OF
110. bicyclemike – Bob Caruthers, P
111. jj-cf-stl – Chick Hafey, CF
112. forsch31 – Billy Southworth, Manager
113. kscardfan – Rick Ankiel, P
114. gscottar – Andy Benes, P
115. Nigel T – Gregg Jeffries, UT
116. stlcard25 – Jesse Burkett, OF
117. mudville – Mark Mulder, P

Round 14

118. mudville – Ryan Ludwick, OF
119. stlcard25 – Jack Flaherty, P
120. Nigel T – Mike Cuellar, P
121. gscottar – Dan Quisenberry, P
122. kscardfan – Mike Shannon, UT
123. Forsch31 – Jason Isringhausen, P
124. jj-cf-stl
125 bicyclemike
126. flood21

Round 15

127. flood21
128. bicyclemike
129. jj-cf-stl
130 forsch31
131. kscardfan
132. gscottar
133. Nigel T
134. stlcard25
135. mudville

Round 16

136. mudville
137. stlcard25
138. Nigel T
139. gscottar
140. kscardfan
141. forsch31
142. jj-cf-stl
143. bicyclemike
144. flood21

[jj-cf-stl]

124. jj-cf-stl – Jake Beckley, bench

Commish, my earlier Chick Hafey pick was for CF

[stlcard25]

Roster matrices:

flood21

C- Darrell Porter
1B- Orlando Cepeda
2B- Placido Polanco
SS- Rafael Furcal
3B- Troy Glaus
LF- Larry Walker
CF- Jim Edmonds
RF- Carlos Beltran
Bench- Reggie Sanders
Bench-

P- Bob Gibson
P- Dennis Eckersley
P- Lon Warneke
P- Jerry Reuss
P-

Manager-

bicyclemike

C- Roger Bresnahan
1B- Jim Bottomley
2B- Eddie Stanky
SS- Dick Groat
3B- Joe Torre
LF- Joe Medwick
CF- Jose Cruz
RF- Stan Musial
Bench- Vada Pinson
Bench-

P- Mordecai Brown
P- Burleigh Grimes
P- Slim Sallee
P- Bob Caruthers
P-

Manager-

jj-cf-stl

C- Gene Tenace
1B- Keith Hernandez
2B- Miller Huggins
SS- John Joseph McGraw
3B- Ken Boyer
LF- Matt Holliday
CF- Chick Hafey
RF- Lance Berkman
Bench- Jake Beckley
Bench-

P- Cy Young
P- Kid Nichols
P- Vic Willis
P- Troy Percival
P-

Manager-

forsch31

C- Walker Cooper
1B- Johnny Mize
2B- Rogers Hornsby
SS- Al Dark
3B- Whitey Kurowski
LF- Minnie Minoso
CF- Curt Flood
RF- Enos Slaughter
Bench-
Bench-

P- Grover Cleveland Alexander
P- Harry Breechen
P- Larry Jackson
P- Lance Lynn
P- Jason Isringhausen

Manager- Billy Southworth

Kscardfan

C- Tony Pena
1B- Bill White
2B- Red Schoendist
SS- Garry Templeton
3B- Albert Pujols
LF- Vince Coleman
CF- Ray Lankford
RF- George Hendrick
Bench- Mike Shannon
Bench-

P- Bob Forsch
P- Matt Morris
P- Joaquin Andujar
P- Danny Cox
P- Rick Ankiel

Manager-

gscottar

C- Tom McCarver
1B- Jack Clark
2B- Tommy Herr
SS- Marty Marion
3B- Gary Gaetti
LF- Lou Brock
CF- Willie McGee
RF- Roger Maris
Bench- Pedro Guerrero
Bench-

P- Dizzy Dean
P- Curt Simmons
P- John Lackey
P- Andy Benes
P- Dan Quisenberry

Manager-

Nigel T

C- Ted Simmons
1B- Mark McGwire
2B-
SS- Edgar Renteria
3B- Nolan Arenado
LF- Eric Davis
CF- Bobby Bonds
RF- Reggie Smith
Bench- Bobby Bonilla
Bench- Greg Jeffries

P- Adam Wainwright
P- Jesse Haines
P- Jim Kaat, P
P- Mort Cooper
P- Mike Cuellar

Manager-

stlcard25

C-
1B- Paul Goldschmidt
2B- Frankie Frisch
SS- Bobby Wallace
3B- Scott Rolen
LF- Dick Allen
CF- Andy Van Slyke
RF- JD Drew
Bench- Matt Carpenter
Bench- Jesse Burkett

P- Steve Carlton
P- Dazzy Vance
P- Max Lanier
P- Tom Henke
P- Jack Flaherty

Manager-

mudville

C- Yadier Molina
1B- Andres Galarraga
2B- Julian Javier
SS- Ozzie Smith
3B-
LF- Pepper Martin
CF- Harrison Bader
RF- Brian Jordan
Bench- Tyler O’Neill
Bench- Ryan Ludwick

P- Chris Carpenter
P- Bruce Sutter
P- John Tudor
P- Lee Smith
P- Mark Mulder

Manager-

[gscottar]

Commish, you mistakenly listed my catcher as Tom McCarver……:)

BTW, you are doing a great job. Your organizational skills are once again superb and this is a lot of fun.

[stlcard25]

Commish, you mistakenly listed my catcher as Tom McCarver……:)

Whoops, I’ll edit that! Most likely an autocorrect in the spreadsheet. Haha

[jj-cf-stl]

Commish, my SP4 is Howie Pollet, drafted #93.
I can’t believe you work so cheap. I see a fruit basket in your future!

[bicyclemike]

Nice grab on Jake “Eagle Eye” Buckley, JJ. A native of Hannibal, MO who mostly played on teams other than the relatively local St. Louis National League club.

I am going similar route with pick #125. Another long forgotten dead ball era first baseman who mostly played with bad clubs so he never really got his due. This guy jumped over to the Federal League for a year, came back to the National League, and finally played on a pennant winner near the end of his career.

125. Bicyclemike – Ed Konetchy, Bench (first baseman vs lefty pitching)

[stlcard25]

Round 14

118. mudville – Ryan Ludwick, OF
119. stlcard25 – Jack Flaherty, P
120. Nigel T – Mike Cuellar, P
121. gscottar – Dan Quisenberry, P
122. kscardfan – Mike Shannon, UT
123. Forsch31 – Jason Isringhausen, P
124. jj-cf-stl- Jake Beckley, UT
125 bicyclemike – Ed Konetchy, IF
126. flood21 – The next two at bats

[flood21]

126 Dan Haren – P

127 Terry Pendleton – bench

[bicyclemike]

I am going with more of a “heart” pick on this one, and leave what most would consider the top three or four Cardinal managers for others to mull over. The first Cardinal manager I remember as a kid, and a darn good one who like LaRussa left after winning it all. A guy who really settled down the clubhouse and got the most out of his players. The original “Number 5”.

128. Johnny Keane, Manager

As a postscript, my dad once said “The best thing Johnny Keane did was put Curt Flood in center field and just leave him there.” I met Flood at the National Sports Collectors convention, which was held in St. Louis in 1995, and told him that. Flood smiled and responded, “He sure did.”

[jj-cf-stl]

129. jj-cf-stl – Solly Hemus, bench

[stlcard25]

Round 14

118. mudville – Ryan Ludwick, OF
119. stlcard25 – Jack Flaherty, P
120. Nigel T – Mike Cuellar, P
121. gscottar – Dan Quisenberry, P
122. kscardfan – Mike Shannon, UT
123. Forsch31 – Jason Isringhausen, P
124. jj-cf-stl- Jake Beckley, UT
125 bicyclemike – Ed Konetchy, IF
126. flood21 – Dan Haren, P

Round 15

127. flood21 – Terry Pendleton, UT
128. bicyclemike – Johnny Keane, Manager
129. jj-cf-stl – Solly Hemus, UT
130 forsch31 – At bat
131. kscardfan – On deck
132. gscottar
133. Nigel T
134. stlcard25
135. mudville

[forsch31]

jj, that’s at least the 2nd time you took someone that I was looking to pick.

130. forsch31 – Lonnie Smith, Bench.

[kscardfan]

Would rather name myself as Manager. But I will follow rules.

131. kscardfan – Joe Torre, Manager

[jj-cf-stl]

I know the feeling Forsch 31. My rotation would be CY Young, Pete Alexander, Kid Nichols and Larry Jackson; but two of them are in your rotation.

The snake style draft helps even that out. Drafting between you and Bikemike has been brutal.

[gscottar]

132. gscottar – Ron Gant, Bench

[Nigel T]

I was going to put Gant at 2B to fill out team thump. His .966 fielding at 2B is truly awful though.

133. Nigel T The White Rat mgr

[bicyclemike]

Ron Gant was a stud. Saw him crank one out at Coors, or maybe it was Mile High. But the thing I noticed is the guy really modeled the uniform well. He looked like a true gym rat; an earlier day Ty O’Neill.

[forsch31]

It has been interesting trying to draft based on who I think might be drafted between a current pick and the next time I pick in the snake draft. I have been mostly correct.

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