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March 9, 2021 at 11:13 am #155428
Do the Cardinals have to either keep him on the ML roster or cut him and keep writing checks?
Yes or trade him and eat most of the contract.
I see none of those things happening. He will be on the roster all year.
March 9, 2021 at 11:39 am #155436If he doesn’t get a hit, how can they justify it? The talking points would be so hollow even for them. I guess they could come up with a phantom injury and hope he figures it out in the minors during rehab. I am sure he has a creaky neck or sore leg after we run him for an hour. Call it “precautionary”
March 9, 2021 at 1:15 pm #155445
stlcard25ParticipantCarp with the golden glove to rob Dominic Smith and preserve the shutout for Cmart through 3. He looks a little better today.
March 9, 2021 at 3:59 pm #155449
stlcard25ParticipantThe pitching was mostly solid today except for Rondon, who gave up all 5 runs. The offense was mostly shut down save for one inning. They had the bases loaded with no one out on walks in the 9th and ended popup-K-popup. Gorman was the final out as he went 0-5. Better days are ahead for him.
March 9, 2021 at 4:14 pm #155450Gorman was charged the error on the play that blew open the 7th inning, but his throw, a bit wide to the right, hit off the webbing of Rondon’s glove.
March 9, 2021 at 4:31 pm #155452A better view. Don’t want all y’all to think badly of our future 3Bman.
March 9, 2021 at 4:42 pm #155453Actually that was Kramer Robertson at 2nd. The ball almost stayed in Kramer’s glove, and dropped about 3 feet away.
March 9, 2021 at 6:07 pm #155458Appreciate the game comments since I was at work. Happy about CMart and Reyes doing well.
March 10, 2021 at 10:12 am #155478Flaherty pitching today, followed by Fernandez, Quezada, Oviedo and Elledge.
1. Tommy Edman (S) 2B
2. Paul Goldschmidt (R) 1B
3. Nolan Arenado (R) 3B
4. Paul DeJong (R) SS
5. Dylan Carlson (S) RF
6. Tyler O’Neill (R) LF
7. Andrew Knizner (R) C
8. Lane Thomas (R) DH
9. Harrison Bader (R) CFMarch 10, 2021 at 11:16 am #155481bccran
ParticipantWill be interesting with all 4 outfielders in the lineup who are competing for a starting job. With less time to make their case this ST.
March 10, 2021 at 11:26 am #155482Justin Williams had 2 hits yesterday including a HR. He’s competing to make the team, but I don’t think there’s any serious consideration of him in a starting role.
March 10, 2021 at 12:07 pm #155483I think this looks like our opening day lineup. Swap Yadi for Knizner and either Thomas or bader.
March 10, 2021 at 2:32 pm #155487bccran
ParticipantToday –
Bader 0-3
O’Neill 0-3
Carlson 0-3
Thomas 0-2
Dean 0-1Outfield 0-12.
Sure hope these unproven guys can get it going before opening day.
March 10, 2021 at 2:40 pm #155488They have ups and downs, but I don’t know what kind of pitching they are doing what against.
March 10, 2021 at 3:27 pm #155489bc, you can look at 1 game or a small sample size all you want. However, the big picture is that those same 5 were 18-58 entering the game. That’s a batting average of .310….and it’s still early in spring training. To give you an example of how small sample sizes don’t show the whole picture, their combined batting average dropped to .257 in 1 game. It could go back up to .300 after the next game.
March 10, 2021 at 3:50 pm #155490
stlcard25ParticipantHits leaders so far
Edman, Knizner 6
O’Neill, Thomas 5
Arenado, Dean, Williams 4
Carlson, Rondon 3
Dejong, Goldy, Heinemann, Molina, Moroff 2
Bader, Gorman, Mendoza, Perez, Sanchez 1Everyone else 0
The outfielders seem to have performed fairly well so far this spring, if you ask me.
March 10, 2021 at 3:53 pm #1554911982 willie
ParticipantStrong point there forsch. A good positive attitude. I knew before coming on here there was going to be some sky is falling shouting going on. Course the whole lineup didn’t hit but we have to blame someone.
March 10, 2021 at 3:56 pm #155492Molina, Goldschmidt and DeJong are a combined 6 for 38. That’s a .158 batting average.
March 10, 2021 at 4:27 pm #155495
jj-cf-stlParticipantIf no-one went IL, it was a good day.
March 10, 2021 at 4:32 pm #155496Knizner is doing his best to force some playing time for himself during the season.
March 10, 2021 at 4:49 pm #155497bccran
ParticipantForsch – Molina, Goldy, and NA are many time All Stars. The outfield is unproven. You know that.
I’m actually most worried about the offensive performance of one guy – PDJ. We simply have to have a good bat at #5 to protect NA.
March 10, 2021 at 5:21 pm #155499bc, Arenado is unproven outside of playing half of his games at Coors Field. Career .263/.322/.471/.793 outside of Coors. Molina will be 39 during the season and had an OPS+ of 87 in 2019 and 81 in 2020. He barely outperformed Bader in 2019 and was well under him in 2020. Goldy will be 34 in September. That is an age where regression could happen.
Once again, you missed the point that you are using small sample sizes, playing with statistics and ignoring stats that don’t fit your narrative. All to continue to dwell on something that we won’t know for sure until the season is well underway. Bader, O’Neill, Carlson and Thomas have all shown glimpses of being able to contribute to the offense. One game doesn’t override that.
March 10, 2021 at 6:12 pm #155500bccran
ParticipantForsch – Some of this stuff is just banter with levity. In other words, good natured back and forth. Of course one game doesn’t make a point.
But I’d be very careful on one thing though. I believe you’d be in a small minority if you start talking down Goldy and NA. Especially NA. The Cardinals studied him from every angle before they made that deal and took on his compensation package. Goldy? He’s solid all the way around both offensively and defensively. Regression is an individual thing. Musial had an OPS of .924 when he was 41 years old.
March 10, 2021 at 8:06 pm #1555021982 willie
ParticipantNeither one of these guys is musial.
March 10, 2021 at 8:29 pm #155503Opening day is in 3 weeks. Time for any wannabes to make their move.
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