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February 24, 2020 at 1:50 pm #123426
No, I said Helsley, not Edman. 😉
February 24, 2020 at 1:56 pm #123427Speaking of… In T6th, Nogowski’s single drives in Edman for the Cards’ third run of the day.
February 24, 2020 at 2:32 pm #123428
stlcard25ParticipantNot a great debut for Liberatore…3 hits, 3 walks, a wild pitch, and a balk. All good for 5 earned runs and a shiny spring ERA of 67.50. Ouch
February 24, 2020 at 2:33 pm #123429Liberatore showed a big curve that had lefties bailing out, but he was touched for five runs in the seventh on three hits, three walks, a balk and a wild pitch. The Cards had a no-hitter through six, but are now down 6-3.
Williams also didn’t throw to the correct base and got a talking-to from McGee.
February 24, 2020 at 2:40 pm #123430bccran
ParticipantArozarena last season –
AA – .309/.422/.515/.937
AAA – .358/.435/.593/1.028
MLB – .300/.391/.500/.891That’s why I liked him.
I’m afraid they made a big mistake trading him.February 24, 2020 at 3:02 pm #123431bccran
ParticipantWhitley was very impressive.
February 24, 2020 at 7:00 pm #123433Jim Edmonds needs to spend less time in the tabloids and more time keeping up with MLB news
I agree Brian. It was ever so obvious that he hasn’t been with it or maybe his tabloid problems overshadow his baseball activities. His statements on Saturday about not following the Astros sign stealing thing also had we wondering if he has found some rock to hide under. He did say he was not surprised and then seemed to indicate that things of that nature were common in his day but not with electronic devices like smart watches. Is Jim going to be in uniform this ST or season like he was last year?
February 24, 2020 at 7:04 pm #123434Well we are only 3 games in with only two on FS Midwest and its probably too early to see any trends but we have seen some ugly stuff – like Libertore’s game (or partial inning). I have been hearing a lot about Justin Williams here on TCN but his performance today was what I would call Forgettable both offensive and defensive. Lots of time left to get a good look at a lot of players.
February 24, 2020 at 7:06 pm #123435A Nogowski single drives in Edman for the Cards’ third run in T6th
Edman got on by out running a potential double play. Yadi I see maintains his turtle like speed.
February 25, 2020 at 7:04 am #123438bccran
ParticipantYadi is a player with many skills. Speed isn’t one of them.
February 25, 2020 at 7:16 am #123439I believe DeJong is the last regular to make his spring debut, but Goldy has yet to play in the field.
#stlcards lineup vs. #Natitude today:
Wong 4
Carlson 9
DeJong 6
Wieters 2
Bader 8
Ravelo DH
Gorman 5
Dean 7
Mendoza 3Gomber 1
— Jeff Jones (@jmjones) February 25, 2020
February 25, 2020 at 7:18 am #123440There has been no hurry to rush them into action as they all will make the team.
This is corrected from before…
Miller’s actually going to throw a live BP today so he won’t get game action tomorrow. Schedule had him and Kaminsky on the same line. Still getting in game-speed work. https://t.co/bTsvHKmSkp
— Jeff Jones (@jmjones) February 25, 2020
February 25, 2020 at 7:51 am #123441bccran wrote:
Yadi is a player with many skills. Speed isn’t one of them.
Very true but when a SS or 2B drops the ball 3 times, then sits down for a cup of coffee and has a large donut to boot and then gracefully wipes his mouth, puts on his glove and picks up the ball and soft tosses to the first baseman who is dozing and drops the ball once, walks over to near the dugout, picks it up and returns to 1b and the ump gives the out signal but, wait, Yadi is not yet in the picture that is slow.
Not a speed demon but over the years he has acquired a habit of judging each ball he hits and determining whether any effort is required or not to reach the base safely not giving any possibility to a dropped ball or bobbled ball or bounced ball or overthrown ball………well you get the picture. Some managers have been known to bench a player who does that but the thought nowadays is that hustling is a rookie thing. My motto: You will never embarrass yourself if you hustle. I have to keep reminding myself that the line of command is owner-gm-Yadi-Shildt. But this has become the way of the game for veterans with big paycheck.
February 25, 2020 at 8:04 am #123442Lane Thomas took a step back in his bid for CF job. Got picked off base and an error.
February 25, 2020 at 9:30 am #123466Mendoza’s stick barely profiles at 3rd. I don’t understand him playing first. Not here
February 25, 2020 at 9:43 am #123467Mendoza is a utility guy, including first. Goldy can’t play first right now. They had Nogowski start the last two games after Ravelo started the opener. I guess they could have had Baker play there.
I cannot see the harm in throwing Mendoza a starting bone – especially when it is so early in the spring that no one plays more than about half the game, anyway…
February 25, 2020 at 9:46 am #123468bccran
ParticipantMinuteman –
I would suggest that we are dealing with a 37 year old future Hall of Fame catcher who has been squatting with those knees for a quarter century. That’s a lot of wear and tear. Probably better not to try to beat out an infield roller and pull a hammy in early Spring Training, when the results of the games are all but meaningless.
Simba – Thomas doesn’t look like a major league starting OF to me. Or even a #4. Unfortunately neither does Williams. I’m recanting on him.
February 25, 2020 at 10:34 am #123473I posted this to the Outfield Dilemna board when my mind misfired. I repost it here for your reading enjoyment….(or not).
I guess I look at spring training as being a good looking glass at folks you may not see much of during the regular season. Some of the regulars may also be working on something like you can see Carp working on that inside out swing to get hits to left field and forget about launch angle. Other guys will tinker with their batting stance or their fielding moves (infielders). Never forget that Pete Kozma won the Spring Training battle title one season and couldn’t hit diddly squat during the regular season (until he got to the Nats in the playoffs). Sit back and enjoy. Steals, errors, bobbles, balks all contribute to the learning environment. There will not be a test on this lecture.
February 25, 2020 at 10:40 am #123475I would suggest that we are dealing with a 37 year old future Hall of Fame catcher who has been squatting with those knees for a quarter century.
After this season, he could give those knees a lot of rest by getting into the coaching and managing ranks. BTW, he has been running that way practically since day one. He is no speed demon but when the turtle walks by it’s time to think about asking MLB to allow designated runners.
February 25, 2020 at 10:48 am #123476MM3 said:
Never forget that Pete Kozma won the Spring Training battle title one season and couldn’t hit diddly squat during the regular season (until he got to the Nats in the playoffs).
Shane Robinson had one huge spring, too.
February 25, 2020 at 11:01 am #123478Agree Brian but he played a lot of 1B in the minors last year as well.
February 25, 2020 at 11:07 am #123480CC, I missed your point. Please clarify. Thanks.
February 25, 2020 at 12:01 pm #12348614NyquisT
ParticipantMM3:
My motto: You will never embarrass yourself if you hustle. I have to keep reminding myself that the line of command is owner-gm-Yadi-Shildt. But this has become the way of the game for veterans with big paycheck.
Good motto. The rest is sadly true.
February 25, 2020 at 12:10 pm #123488
stlcard25ParticipantIt’s tough to tell these two teams apart when watching. Gomber gives up a leadoff double to Thames.
February 25, 2020 at 12:15 pm #123490White vs. gray pants is about all to go on.
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