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February 28, 2020 at 5:51 am #123715
Derrick said: Dylan Carlson has reached base in five consecutive plate appearances, and the last time an opponent got him out was on a force out Tuesday. In his past five plate appearances, Carlson has a triple, double, single, and two walks, one from right and one from left.
MM3 sez: How ya gonna keep um down on da farm afta de seen Paree! GO BOY GO – Our New Taveras -NOW.
February 28, 2020 at 7:12 am #123716Mud, very good point, the Memphis rotation should be excellent. If the season started tomorrow, who are your Stl 5 starters and 8 relievers? The reliever situation could go a lot of different ways. Like Cecil for example, if his arm is still attached, he’s making the team.
Mine would likely be as follows (I can’t figure out who I’m missing):
STL Rotation: JF, CMart, Kim, Hudson, Waino (that’s how I’d rank them also)
STL BP: Gallegos, Helsley, Gant, Brebbia, JFern, Miller, Cecil(sadly), Kaminsky/WebbThat leaves the following for the Memphis rotation: Cabrera, Ponce, Reyes, Gomber, Woodford, Fagalde, Oviedo, Rondon….. how is that going to work out?
February 28, 2020 at 7:13 am #123717bccran
ParticipantThe Cardinals are banking on comeback seasons from Fowler, Carp, and to a certain extent DeJong. And two guys in the outfield who have not proven themselves yet offensively.
That’s 62.5% of our starting lineup.Carlson is no Pujols, but if he rakes all Spring Training (especially against regular major league pitchers) the Cards may have to seriously consider bringing him North. Just MHO.
February 28, 2020 at 7:25 am #123718bccran
ParticipantChiTown – you stated Kaminsky or Webb for the bullpen. Webb had an overall 1.02 WHIP last year. His BAA vs. left handed batters was .157. Even his BAA vs. right handed batters was .189. Kaminsky had a 1.622 ERA at AAA last year. And he’s never thrown a pitch in the majors.
February 28, 2020 at 7:49 am #123719
stlcard25ParticipantMud, very good point, the Memphis rotation should be excellent. If the season started tomorrow, who are your Stl 5 starters and 8 relievers? The reliever situation could go a lot of different ways. Like Cecil for example, if his arm is still attached, he’s making the team.
Mine would likely be as follows (I can’t figure out who I’m missing):
STL Rotation: JF, CMart, Kim, Hudson, Waino (that’s how I’d rank them also)
STL BP: Gallegos, Helsley, Gant, Brebbia, JFern, Miller, Cecil(sadly), Kaminsky/WebbI’d put a similar staff out there, only I’d have Cabrera in the bullpen rather than Cecil. I think Whitley is making a case to be included as well if Gant or Brebbia (or anyone really) start the season in a funk.
The Memphis rotation should include Reyes if he’s healthy so he can get as many innings to work on things as possible. He’d be a good mid season/injury addition, along with Mikolas if his arm can hold up.
February 28, 2020 at 7:52 am #123720
jj-cf-stlParticipantWebb is also out of options, which can’t be ignored.
February 28, 2020 at 8:13 am #123722
stlcard25ParticipantSTL Lineup 2/28
D Fowler (S) DH
R Ravelo (R) RF
P Goldschmidt (R) 1B
Y Molina (R) C
T O’Neill (R) LF
H Bader (R) CF
N Gorman (L) 3B
M Schrock (L) 2B
E Sosa (R) SSFebruary 28, 2020 at 8:37 am #123727Wainwright is scheduled to throw 3 innings/50 pitches, followed by Ponce de Leon. Then Andrew Miller is set to make his spring debut, followed by Alex Reyes and Zack Thompson.
— Anne Rogers (@anne__rogers) February 28, 2020
February 28, 2020 at 8:42 am #123729
stlcard25ParticipantThat’s an interesting group of pitchers today. Hopefully Reyes can find the zone better.
February 28, 2020 at 8:48 am #123731bccran
ParticipantThey seem to be taking a strong look at Ravelo.
February 28, 2020 at 9:02 am #123732To me, Kaminsky is more of a “great comeback story” and he’s looked very good so far. I agree that it will highly likely be Webb, but if Cecil gets hurt again, I think he could make a case.
Cabrera over Cecil is a no brainer, BUT there are 30M reasons why Mo doesn’t want to be embarrassed. If Cecil is healthy, and he has an ERA under 9 in ST, they will give him at least a couple of weeks in STL, the same can be said about Fowler.
February 28, 2020 at 10:50 am #123736Once again Yadi is batting 4th.
February 28, 2020 at 10:54 am #123737PadsFS
ParticipantThe catchers bat fourth so they can pair with the starting pitcher and come out of the game around the same time.
I missed the news on Kaminsky re-signing with the Cards. That’s pretty cool.
February 28, 2020 at 11:32 am #123744CFICT said:
Cabrera over Cecil is a no brainer, BUT there are 30M reasons why Mo doesn’t want to be embarrassed. If Cecil is healthy, and he has an ERA under 9 in ST, they will give him at least a couple of weeks in STL, the same can be said about Fowler.
There are only 7M reasons left. After three years, the whole embarrassment thing is really old news.
Still, I followed you until the very end. If you really think Fowler would only get two weeks and then be released, you are not being honest with yourself.
February 28, 2020 at 12:01 pm #123745Small sample size but how about Gorman. Only one strikeout so far and hitting the ball well. A 10 pitch at bat. Unheard of last year.
I don’t see how they could leave Cabrera off the team. Has been very impressive. Curveball is a killer.
Not surprised about Whitley. Guy has good stuff and better still good command of his stuff.
February 28, 2020 at 12:05 pm #123747Libratore got beat up some but his curve ball made the left handed hitter look like a schoolboy and then the same guy belted a double on a similar inside curve the next pitch. Welcome to the major leagues.
February 28, 2020 at 12:40 pm #123748BW, in Fowlers case it would be benched, not released. If Cecil blows up in a few opening games, that’s a different story, I could see them just cutting their losses and move on.
Fowler has two years left at almost double the salary, so that’s a completely different story, and I didn’t mean to make it seem like I thought they would just cut him. If he’s hitting under .200, not making hard contact and striking out at a high rate, I could see him being on the bench more days than not after a few weeks or a month. His leash has to be a lot shorter in 2020 than it was in 2018.
February 28, 2020 at 1:11 pm #123749
stlcard25ParticipantCards tied 1-1. Schrock just clobbered one foul, only to be caught looking with two on and a 3-2 pitch by Familia.
February 28, 2020 at 1:22 pm #123750
stlcard25ParticipantPonce allowed a single, but has his K stuff going. He struck out 3 in the 4th.
February 28, 2020 at 2:00 pm #123751And how did Reyes do in this one?
February 28, 2020 at 2:18 pm #123752
stlcard25ParticipantPugs, he hasn’t pitched yet. Waino pitched the first three, Ponce the next three and Miller the 7th. It’s the top of the 8th now, with the Cards and Mets tied at 2.
February 28, 2020 at 2:28 pm #123753
stlcard25ParticipantReyes now in. He gets the first batter on a grounder to short, follows it with a nice K…and then serves up a fat meatball that the light hitting Mets SS prospect Gimenez deposits over the wall for a 3-2 lead. He follows it with another K.
February 28, 2020 at 2:37 pm #123754
stlcard25ParticipantIn the 9th, Bader works a full count and then pops out to the 3B in foul territory. Gorman is up next. He works the count 2-0, then takes the next two strikes. Foul ball, still 2-2. The next pitch seems to (not) catch the lower inside corner and he’s rung up. Down to Schrock…who is quickly in an 0-2 hole. Schrock pops one out to left and Tebow slips, allowing it to fall in for a “double.” Edmundo Sosa lines the first pitch right to the RF and that’s all she wrote. Cards lose 3-2.
February 28, 2020 at 3:18 pm #123755Pugs? Did someone call ME Pugs?????
Anyway, how did Reyes look? Besides the one bad pitch it appears he’s made progress since his last outing.
r/ESTEEMED RAT and NOT Esteemed Pugs
February 28, 2020 at 3:24 pm #123756
stlcard25ParticipantPugs? Did someone call ME Pugs?????
Anyway, how did Reyes look? Besides the one bad pitch it appears he’s made progress since his last outing.
r/ESTEEMED RAT and NOT Esteemed Pugs
Woops, sorry about the mistake. RAT…
He had good stuff today with solid control. He had several swinging strikes. Hopefully he can build on the momentum.
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