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November 15, 2020 at 11:29 am #147406
Ny, I still do not know what your lists mean, no matter what label you put on them. Please clarify. Thanks.
November 16, 2020 at 7:43 am #147454The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards Top 50 prospect countdown for 2021 continues with a SS who has increased his IF versatility and has stepped in admirably whenever called upon. A steadier Triple-A assignment seems just ahead for no. 37 Kramer Robertson. ($) https://t.co/t9g36Lvcht pic.twitter.com/yDVzs05oPA
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) November 16, 2020
November 16, 2020 at 8:14 am #147470Nice versatile athlete. Was the QB on the football team, point guard on the basketball team, and SS on the baseball team at Midway HS in Waco, Texas. Became one of the leaders on the LSU Tigers baseball team, starting all 4 years, and helped lead them into the CWS. Was a 2nd team All American and 3rd team All American his junior and senior years. One of the best college defensive shortstops in the country.
In 2019, he played at both Springfield and Memphis, hitting 11 home runs, driving in 51, stealing 14 bases, and having an OBP of .360 in 123 games.
Nice versatile player who projects as #5/#6 infielder. Mini Edman type.
November 16, 2020 at 9:00 am #14748014NyquisT
ParticipantFrom Brian’s assessment of Robertson:
As the prior rankings indicate, the initial excitement over Robertson waned after his first full season as a minor leaguer,
That’s about how I feel about KR. I had heard that he was an infield general and a heads up guy but its nice to hear it confirmed. His value to the organization seemingly is more than what the stats show us.
November 17, 2020 at 7:57 am #147544The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards Top 50 prospect countdown for 2021 continues with a RHP who lost his 40-man roster spot, but has yet to pitch at Double-A and just turned 22 years of age. Alvaro Seijas is our no. 36 prospect. ($) https://t.co/QQ6dk3awjj pic.twitter.com/Y2M3nkLYY9
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) November 17, 2020
November 17, 2020 at 9:36 am #147561Ouch for Seijas. I liked him but sort of like Jhon Torres, you have to wonder if the Cards organization soured on him for whatever reason. Hopefully he can use the rest of 2020 to work on whatever the club would like him to and energe with a strong 2021 to follow his very solid 2019 campaign.
November 17, 2020 at 1:03 pm #14757914NyquisT
ParticipantSeijas has always been one of Brian’s pets and a fan favorite around these parts, but #28 versus #49? I know that Brian and Matt are taking different routes in their selections so it will be interesting to see where he falls into the Community vote. Somewhere in between is likely.
At 22, Seijas is already a veteran within the organization after signing at age 15 and could very well hit his potential yet.
November 17, 2020 at 5:20 pm #147590The “pet” comment is silly, as this community ranked him #24 just last year. As I wrote, the skills that got Seijas added to the 40-man roster at age 21 didn’t disappear the next year, during 2020. Only time will tell if he rebounds, though.
On a general comment, I tend to give players who have done well in the past more of the benefit of the doubt for one bad year. This was clearly a bad year for Seijas, which is pretty amazing since he never threw in even a spring training game.
November 18, 2020 at 7:08 am #147610November 18, 2020 at 7:36 am #147615Has always had a nice OBP. In the 3 years he hooted for the Owls – .366, .368, .433.
November 18, 2020 at 10:51 am #147633Yeah I’m still curious on the Seijas story and what actually happened at the Alternative Site this past year.
November 19, 2020 at 6:49 am #147710The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards Top 50 prospect countdown for 2021 reaches no. 34 with the oft-forgotten fourth player in the Arozarena-Liberatore trade. Like so many others, 19 y/o Venezuelan catcher Edgardo Rodriguez has a lot of catching up to do. ($) https://t.co/42kggEm15z pic.twitter.com/dCvJ4EqnWW
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) November 19, 2020
November 19, 2020 at 9:58 am #147719Is that a photo of Rodriguez? If so it appears he is a LH hitter but his profile says he is a RH hitter.
I would also say that the number of catchers the Cardinals have in their Top 50 is quite amazing. A lot of depth there.
November 19, 2020 at 11:08 am #147724Per the blurb from Matt Thompson, he said that Rodriguez began as a switch hitter before moving exclusively to hitting right handed.
November 19, 2020 at 11:33 am #147731You missed the photo caption at the top of the article, which states Rodriguez is on the left (the catcher), obviously not the Cubs LHH on the right. (FYI, it is hard to get photos out of the DSL.)
November 19, 2020 at 2:59 pm #147749Ah ok, that makes sense. I thought that looked like a Cub uniform.
November 20, 2020 at 7:24 am #147789The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards Top 50 prospect countdown for 2021 reaches no. 33 with a strong-fielding first baseman and with a good eye at the plate who made his MLB debut in 2020. @mdthompFWFB and I weigh in on John Nogowski. ($) https://t.co/h5Z5cHgF6o pic.twitter.com/76qNnDJA6a
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) November 20, 2020
November 21, 2020 at 8:38 am #147873The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards Top 50 prospect countdown for 2021 continues with a right-handed pitcher who exceeded expectations while earning a very rare three promotions during the 2019 season. At no. 32 is Tommy Parsons. ($) https://t.co/Cksd70VoSG pic.twitter.com/4TG3ry6jBr
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) November 21, 2020
November 21, 2020 at 12:11 pm #14789525 year old Division 3 product, who got it handed to him at Springfield and Memphis in 2019?
November 21, 2020 at 4:21 pm #147918Out of these last 19 rankings, going from 32 to 50, I think
LJ Jones IV has the highest ceiling. Because of his reputed excellent defense, I still like Mendoza a lot, and I would have liked to see him ranked higher than No.45. I hope I get a chance to see him some time. His problem apparently is lack of power. I’m going to keep him in mind when the Community ranking gets up to about No. 25. After that, I think Pedro Pages and Alvaro Seijas, and hopefully, Jack Ralston have the best chance of contributing one day. Kramer Robertson appears to be well-liked because of his aggressiveness, but his hit tool might hold him back. I have a feeling that because of that likability factor he gets a few at bats at the major league level.November 21, 2020 at 8:31 pm #147923bccran, Parsons threw 165 2/3 innings in 2019. He only threw 57 innings in 2018, 29 1/3 in 2017 and 44 in 2016. 4 of his last 5 appearances in 2019, he pitched poorly. I wonder if he was experiencing fatigue. For now, I will give a little benefit of the doubt.
November 21, 2020 at 9:51 pm #147927Could be, Forsch, but those 26 home runs in 83 1/3 innings at Springfield is pretty ugly.
November 21, 2020 at 10:08 pm #147928Out of these last 19 rankings, going from 32 to 50, I think
LJ Jones IV has the highest ceiling.Mud, all your opinions are well reasoned and I can see where you are coming from. I’d also like to submit the pitcher who was top 10 in the DSL in innings and strikeouts as a 16 year old in 2018, then 2nd in the Gulf Coast League in both innings and Ks as a 17 year old in 2019. He even got the call to pitch in a couple of Florida State League games, where he had one game rained out where IIRC he gave up one run in 4+ innings.
Ludwin Jimenez has the highest ceiling of the guys so far, IMO. Reportedly his velocity isn’t there yet, but he has a frame that should be able to support more and he clearly can already pitch. I like him to be a major league arm some day.
November 22, 2020 at 8:09 am #147930The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards Top 50 prospect countdown for 2021 continues with the team’s third-round draft pick in 2020, a left-handed pitcher from Oklahoma. No. 31 Levi Prater has yet to make his professional debut. ($) https://t.co/Gvfh9SnJsi pic.twitter.com/FEAEPy85TX
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) November 22, 2020
November 22, 2020 at 10:52 am #147935I don’t quite understand the grading difference between control and command. They seem like the same thing.
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