September 13, 2020 at 5:53 pm #139995858booyahParticipantFree
People have disagreements all the time. Trolling I find is mostly a cute way for one poster to take some heat off when they can’t handle things and the other poster usually feeds off it.
My advice is that both posters (and I’m going to use a letterkenny references) ” Give yer ball a tug” and ” take 10-15% off squirrely Dan”. Just enjoy the sight and all the wonderful people we’ve got here.September 13, 2020 at 5:59 pm #139997
Then let’s look at the full season of 2019.
Against LHP – .177/.255/.395/.640
Against RHP – .215/.334/.359/.693
Total of 406 PAs. Much larger sample. Actually, a tad better last year against RHP.September 13, 2020 at 6:15 pm #139998forsch31ParticipantFree
And he has a career split of:
Against LHP – .265/.339/.522/.861
Against RHP – .222/.315/.352/.667
Since he is only 26 years old, this is probably the best sample. That is based on 1007 plate appearances.September 13, 2020 at 6:19 pm #139999Brian WaltonKeymasterPaid - Annual
In the minors, Bader’s history was hitting left-handed pitchers much better than right. So the general tendency has remained over time.September 13, 2020 at 6:46 pm #140001
2017 – 92PAs/.235/.283/.376/.659
2018 – 427PAs/.264/.334/.422/.756
2019 – 406PAs/.205/.314/.366/.680
2020 – 82PAs/.221/.341/.485/.827
Some uptick in this year’s small sample numbers (small sample, as some posters pointed out)September 13, 2020 at 7:00 pm #140004
The key with Bader is not his handedness splits, in a 15 PA’s split vs LHP’s in 2020, it’s his developing ability to use all fields.
He used to be a pull hitter who was shifted against. Shift on him now and he thanks you. He’s developing as Wong has, and remember how long it took Wong to make this adjustment. Harrisons 1000 ish PA’s is two full seasons as a qualifier, and he has 3 seasons control left.
He’s a career 94 ops+ with outstanding D and you can see he’s continuing to develop. The best is yet to come as he enters his prime years imo, just as it has been for Wong (95 ops+).September 13, 2020 at 7:06 pm #140005
Hope that’s so. It would be great to have a productive CFer, both defensively and offensively, for years to come.September 13, 2020 at 7:12 pm #140007
mudville, back to “can Bader be his current .827 ops in the foreseeable future?”
I seriously doubt it. He’s currently a career .722, Wong .719, I just like that comparison. But, for his age 26 season until today, Wong has posted a .759 / 104 ops+. I think Bader gets there, if not surpasses it a little. I’ll take that for elite up the middle defenders, won’t you?September 13, 2020 at 8:58 pm #140016
He has a way to go, but it would be great if Bader becomes an elite center fielder.September 13, 2020 at 8:59 pm #140017
Bader is already an elite center fielder. Just not with the bat.September 13, 2020 at 9:17 pm #140018
It may be too old school in a modern game, but outfield D still matters greatly to me. We saw a 4 run swing in just todays game. Dean cost us 2 runs in LF and Bader saved us 2 runs on a layout catch in CF.
Those same two players did not provide 4 offensive runs today. Their D mattered more than their bats, and usually does in a game where batters fail 75% of the time.September 13, 2020 at 9:20 pm #140019
He’s a fine center fielder. Now, if he can only prove consistency over time with his bat.September 14, 2020 at 10:11 am #14005714NyquisTParticipantPaid - Annual
Bader struggled the first shot he got at Memphis in ’16… his numbers were similar to what that are now except his OPS are higher now. Maybe he just needs more ABs to get up to speed in St Louis although it seems it is taking a while. He is getting more of an opportunity because of his glove and the Cards need for a CF. I wonder where he would be without his superior glove.September 14, 2020 at 10:57 am #140058
I wonder where Bader would be if Carlson had better offensive results in his short time up. And I wonder where Bader will be when Carlson is truly ready for the big show (soon). Fowler is here throughout 2021.September 14, 2020 at 11:53 am #140059
Carlson needs to show he’s not just another pull hitter, so I question how “soon”. The shift matters. Dylan did a fine job going up the middle, sadly there was usually an infielder shifted there.September 14, 2020 at 12:13 pm #140061
Good point. I think shifts in MLB should be banned. Not the way Abner designed it.September 14, 2020 at 4:42 pm #140085
Back in the day we always heard “go up the middle”, ok, but now we need to add “and over the infield”. It’s as if the up the middle value has shifted to opposite field value, if the shift is on.
Maybe I’m in LF on this but I see today we’re 25th in HR%, we’re simply not very good at hitting over the shift. So, maybe away from the shift is the way to go? For everyone, not just Dylan. We saw how the shift affected Carpenter, but also saw Kolten make the adjustment and prove if you beat the shift, you’ll have a better season.
I’ve put a lot of eyeball attention on which Cardinals are using the opposite field this season, and really we’re pretty good at it. When I have time I’d like to check the hitters and see if there is a correlation between struggling batters and low opposite field %.September 14, 2020 at 6:29 pm #140105
I’ve seen it a few times, but unfortunately not as a general rule.September 14, 2020 at 8:41 pm #140135forsch31ParticipantFree
jj, surprisingly, the splits say that going the opposite way gives a lower success than pulling the ball. Here are the teams’ splits in 2020 per Baseball Reference:
Pulled – .396/.393/.763/1.155
Up Middle – .327/.321/.496/.817
Opposite Field – .250/.240/.431/.671
Pulled – .294/.292/.531/.823
Up Middle – .343/.341/.490/.831
Opposite Field – .297/.292/.453/.745
Although, I haven’t found a breakdown by whether or not there is a shift on.September 14, 2020 at 11:03 pm #140186
Crucial doubleheader against your nearest competitor for a playoff spot. Cards have scored 3 runs in 16 innings. Sad.September 15, 2020 at 6:18 am #140201
It is what it is at this point, bc. Perhaps you can voice your displeasure to Mo personally the next time you see him. Or maybe you’ll be lucky and they’ll can him.
Either way, your best choice would be to simply let it go and focus on the things the team does do well. They are in playoff position for a reason. A couple, really…pitching and defense.September 15, 2020 at 7:10 am #140208mudvilleParticipantPaid - Annual
Agree.September 15, 2020 at 7:22 am #140213
I’ll try, 25 and Mudville, but as a former college pitcher I feel for this staff that isn’t getting the run support it deserves.
Way too much pressure on them. And are you really happy making the playoffs with a .500 record? And think we’ll go far in the playoffs against teams that have a lot more offensive gas in their tanks?September 15, 2020 at 7:44 am #140215
And are you really happy making the playoffs with a .500 record?
Yes. I’d much rather face the Cubs in round 1 (who I think we are better than) and Braves in round 2 (coin flip) as a .500 club than the Padres in round 1 and Dodgers in round 2. I’d give us a 67% chance in a series with Chicago, 50% with Atlanta, 30% with San Diego and 20% with LA.September 15, 2020 at 10:25 am #140220Brian WaltonKeymasterPaid - Annual
I sense that some are taking for granted the hardships that the 2020 club has faced and still is. Step back and take a breath. Consider what happened with missing more than two weeks, the players sick with the virus, compressed schedule and the injuries. I think most objective observers would be satisfied with a .500 record and a playoff spot. From there, anything could happen.
All the over and over talk about how bad the offense is and how they should have done things differently in building the team leads nowhere but in circles. For me, that is a subject for the winter. Right now, the team that they have is who will play. All the kvetching and the what-iffing is wasted energy.
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