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August 22nd:
bccran
Cardinal team stats –
BA – 25th
OBP – 24th
Slugging – Tied for 29th
OPS – 26thThat’s really sad.
September 2nd:
Cardinal team stats –
BA – 12th
OBP – 1st
SLG – 23rd
OPS – 17thLarger sample size now.
Couldn’t read your article Brian but surely with 30 games left in the season including 7 double headers there will be enough playing time to not ‘sit’ anybody. Carp was a person who came into ST supposedly much changed and ready to go…..until game 1. He has good times – mostly in pressure situations – but even Edmonds was commenting last night that his batting stance and approach to the ball is not consistent.
Do the teams have to cut down for the playoffs? I think they are still at 28 now right? I would think that they should be allowed to stay at 28 right through the World Series.Terrific piece, B. Wish all posters could read it.
Bader hit .205 in 2019 and is hitting
.196 this year. After nearly 1,000 MLB plate appearances he’s hitting .233, with a .718 OPS. He’s pretty much defined himself offensively.O’Neill hit .262 last year, but is hitting
.174 this year. After 373 plate appearances he’s hitting .241 with an OPS of .732. Still trying to lay off the high 4 seamer and low slider.Carlson is now getting a well earned shot and invaluable experience since Memphis is not playing. He has 73 major league plate appearances. OJT. Let’s see how he adjusts. He has a good baseball IQ.
Miller is well deserving in the 4 slot.
The problem I have with the Carlson situation is that Mo has stated in the past that “the major leagues are not a developmental league. They are about performance.” (paraphrasing). Yet, the Cardinals are obviously allowing Carlson the opportunity to “develop” at the major league level. Granted, part of the reason why is that there are no minor leagues this year for him to develop in, which is the primary reason the minor leagues exist in my opinion.
If you want to argue that Carlson should start over O’Neill or Thomas or Carp then you might be able to make a case but having him start in CF over the best defensive CF in the league doesn’t make sense since his offensive output has been no better. The big leagues are about production, not development.
Carlson is a much better overall player than Bader. He’s being given a chance to continue his development in these difficult times.
O’Neill – .178/.286/.342/.628
Bader – .196/.339/.457/.796
Thomas – .083./.267/.167/.433
Carlson – .176/.233/.265/.498Ozuna – .302/.390/.624/1.014 (12 home runs already in only 36 games)
Results to date re Mo’s risk with 4 unproven youngsters in the OF.
I find it amusing that such great significance is attached to Thomas’ grand total of 15 plate appearances coming off COVID this season when his 44 very strong PAs last season were written off as some kind of fluke. And Carlson’s 72 PAs at Triple-A told many he was ready for MLB from the get-go this year. Fun with small samples…
Ozuna is not coming back in 2020. The Cardinals have a month to play the youngsters, which they apparently plan to do. Mo already said the performances during that time will tell them if they need to look externally in the off-season.
Honestly, what else would you have them do, right now? They cannot go back in time. But are you going to make the same gripe about not re-signing Ozuna every day for the rest of the season?
But are you going to make the same gripe about not re-signing Ozuna every day for the rest of the season?
Multiple times every 24 hours, it seems like. It’s very clear that he actually dislikes the Cardinals and is happy to trash our (not his) team and players to further his personal agenda, which seems to be a love of a few select players through the years. That’s fine for what it is, IMO.
gscottar said:
The big leagues are about production, not development.
The only explanation is that this year, in this environment, they seemed to have altered the rules for Carlson. It will be interesting to see how the OF time is doled out in the post-Fowler days. With Edman playing apparently every day, that leaves four outfielders for two spots – Carlson, Bader, Thomas and O’Neill. Will Carlson return to every-day status after his two games off or will there be some kind of rotation among the four? Shildt said there are a “couple of spots” open, but he did not clarify which ones…
No, but as I’ve said ad nauseam,
this is one of the storied franchises in MLB. One that has a tremendous track record of success. One that’s a regional franchise with fans spread out over 7 or 8 states. A team I’ve had a passion for over a number of decades. And I can’t remember going into any season with such an untested outfield. I’m glad they found Miller. Just wish they’d found (or will find) an outfielder in the same mold. Ozuna? He wanted to come back. I’d have asked him to bring his best deal back so we could see if we could meet it or beat it.O’Neill – .178/.286/.342/.628
Bader – .196/.339/.457/.796
Thomas – .083./.267/.167/.433
Carlson – .176/.233/.265/.498Ozuna – .302/.390/.624/1.014 (12 home runs already in only 36 games)
Results to date re Mo’s risk with 4 unproven youngsters in the OF.
Wrong comparison bccran. Ozuna is not an OF, he is a DH.
Ozuna: 301/390/624/1.014/$18 million
Miller: 333/464/667/1.131/$2 millionWhy have to choose between Ozuna and Miller? Actually, I would have wanted to sign Ozuna for 2 years.
Winn is a high school kid. Way, way too early to judge. Could be another Plummer, Denton, Peoples/Walls, Boyd, Bean, etc.
September 2, 2020 at 1:05 pm#138274REPLY
bccran
I like the offense now, gscottar.
Sometimes you just have to try to find the right combination of players who sync well.Ozuna is tearing it up in Atlanta for sure.
But I can’t blame Mo for not re-signing him, mainly because of that bum shoulder and the pitiful soft-toss throw he had to make from left field because of it. (* Mo may deserve some blame for signing him in the first place however, because he had that bum shoulder when we signed him.) Had we known that Covid and the DH were coming, then it might’ve made sense to re-sign him. But then again, I remember Ozuna flailing at a lot of outside sliders in the dirt to strike out in key situations last year.
I tend to prefer hitters who place more emphasis on putting the ball in play with RISP than those who’d rather swing for the fences no matter the count or the situation. I do not miss Ozuna.
Same here. He’s not a player that I wanted to watch for 5, 6, or 7 years. He had plenty of time to earn a long term contract and he failed to do it.
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