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I will always root for the Cardinals to win and hope for the best but I refuse to live by irrational delusion. Sometimes a spade is really a spade. We are all 0-0 on opening day though!
Happy Arenado is still a Cardinal. At least for now. With his contract, and declining 2024 production, his trade wasn’t going to bring back any top prospects anyway. Hope he’s motivated to having an excellent 2025. Seems like he is, from his comments.
He says he likes the city, the organization, and the traditions. He’s signed for 3 more years. If he stays, maybe he’ll have a shot at a ring in 2027. Who knows.
We probably won’t get 100 OPS+ out of 3B this year. Its just a question of how much payroll it will take to not get 100 OPS+.
I believe the key to the Cards 2025 season is as follows:
1) Arenado rebounding with a good year
2) Jordan Walker having a good year.r/Esteemed Rat
Both those guy are important components, but they have to field something that resembles a capable starting rotation to have a chance. And I’ve never seen a Cardinal team win anything at all without the presense of a Big League manager in the dugout.
Well maybe so, but in my view, the only thing that counts when evaluating a Big League manager is W/L %.
Management has done nothing in the offseason to make the Cardinals a better team than the one that finished 10 games out in 2024. Consequently we must all take solace in the knowledge that the poor DeWitts are saving money despite being unable to unload Arenado.
For my part, I’m just as happy seeing Arenado stick around. Nothing better seems to be on the horizon and with a bit of luck he could return to form, or something near it. I fear those counting on Gorman to catch fire are courting disappointment.
Most of us have lived through wishy-washy seasons in the past and still survived as avid Cardinal fans. 2025 is shaping up to be another one of those seasons. But it’s still baseball and crazy things sometimes happen.
Go Birds!Well maybe so, but in my view, the only thing that counts when evaluating a Big League manager is W/L %.
You got it aĺl wrong Dom. All that matters is the players like you. These millionaires are a sensitive bunch. You have to be their buddies and hug them a lot and make sure you don’t hurt their feelings.
Ha ha, lots of chuckles in the above. The Cardinals have made their own bed and now we all get to lay in it.
It would take career and ‘comeback’ seasons up and down the roster OR a hideous collapse by the rest of the NLC teams for the Cards to win the division this year.
We’ve gone from rebuild to reset to ‘transition’ as the adjective to describe what’s happening in 2025.
I’m not sure what to make of it – they are basically standing pat outside of letting a few players walk.
Keeping Gray and Arenado on the team will likely prevent them from a true reset / find out what we have year.
Instead of picking a lane and getting into it they are weaving all over the road and I think it’s going to slow down and delay whatever it is they are trying to accomplish.
Instead of picking a lane and getting into it they are weaving all over the road and I think it’s going to slow down and delay whatever it is they are trying to accomplish.
Exactly. The rest of your post is as equally accurate. Hope and luck. That’s our strategy to keep 2025 from being a complete waste of time and resources. It’s a delay of what needs to be done. But they’re going with it. And there’s no doubt I will be watching 155 or so games. So Im going to add prayer to the strategy. Maybe that will work.
Honest question for the “need to reset and find out what we have” crew. What do you think the chances are that the strategy you have mind will be successful are?
I’d consider success as becoming a perennial contender again within a reasonable 2-4 years, making the playoffs most every year and winning rounds of the playoffs at least every other year, with a shot at a title.
My view is that for a mid market team, hitting the reset button has around a 20-30% chance of working out. We’ve seen lots of teams sell off and then spend 10+ years in baseball purgatory with little to nothing to show for it.
We have some talented younger players at both the Major League and Minor League levels. A lot of money and effort is going into helping them achieve their full potential. Glad to see it.
The last time StL fit that success description, we had Pujols, Molina and Wainwright from the farm, AND a top 10 budget.
1toughdominican –
If you’re going to measure the W-L % of a manager, please know that Matheny had a better W-L % than both Whitey and Tony.
Where does Oli Marmol measure in W/L%, with the three you mentioned Cranny?
Fired, resigned and retired seems irrelevant to any recent W/L%.
How is Marmol doing vs Schildt, if we could move forward a decade?
Lol, I’m not going to look up all the w/l% of each manager. My back of envelope has Schildt and Matheny as the best recent stl w/l%, both fired. Marmol currently as the worst w/l%, with the orgs endorsement, and Mo as the common denominator. Correct me where needed.
Winning percentages –
Shildt – .559
Matheny – .555
LaRussa – .544
Herzog – .530
Schoendienst – .522
Marmol – .508
Torre – .498Pitching injuries determine winning percentages more than any individual strategic ability. Many factors influence season outcomes, but losing young stud pitchers hurts the most because of the trickle down effect. When you go with young starters who you have cleared a path for, your entire upper-level minor league system is often devastated, also.
John Fulgham, Andy Rincon, Alan Benes, etc…all affected manager winning percentages more than any ability difference between Red, Torre, and any other skipper from that list you want to debate.
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