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The way this team is playing, is 89 Ws realistic?
If Matheny has players that are making good money and batting sub-.200 in mid-June that he has to play, FO is to blame. Fowler and Wong contribute very little offensively (at least Wong’s glove is a plus). Carpenter and Ozuna have climbed out of their funks, Dex and Kolt continue to be a drag on the team. You can’t win 89 games with two important cogs not showing up. Especially with your #3 hitter and SS on the DL.
how about Yanks deal us Andujar for Wacha?
then sell Sheffield and something else for Machado? Then go all in on re-signing him after they get their WS win?Sounds like a Yankees plan to me
Machado Derby: 10 teams that have called (or should call) about MM. with current odds for each to acquire via trade (not for betting purposes) https://t.co/QGktpqYzW7
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) June 21, 2018
Heyman’s latest update mentions four teams, none of which are the Cards – but the Cubs are.
https://fancredsports.com/articles/jon-heyman-are-two-favorites-emerging-for-mannyI still don’t see how the Cubs can get him, at least for anything more than a rental because with all of their players coming up in the next few years to needing new contracts and their want for Harper…they can’t sign them all…
Bob Nightengale of USA has the Dodgers getting Machado.
If the Cards have to trade for Machado to fill the power spot that we got Ozuna to fill, it will call for another set of prospects sent packing. So for the cost of a rental and the original set of prospects traded off to get Ozuna…. that’s a whole bunch of players that will be missing. If that becomes the case the Ozuna trade becomes even more of a bust. We got him to provide plenty of power, again we have to get someone to fill that spot.
I wouldn’t say the Ozuna trade is a bust as I’m still not sold on any of the guys we gave up being great.
The bigger issue for the offense this year has been the stretches where most everyone except Molina and Martinez have hit like A ball players for a month at a time. I guess Dejong hasn’t had an ice cold month but he has been injured.
Machado would be an impact bat, but I’m in agreement that the prospect price would be too high to stomach, IMO. I think they would want more than the Ozuna return, and for 1/4 of the time. No thanks.
Like I said, we traded for a power guy for the 4 spot. Ozuna hasn’t been that guy. Having to go out and replace him as a big bat makes the Ozuna trade seem pretty costly. I give Ozuna plenty of credit for getting on track, but he is somewhat of a liability in left. I don’t know what happened to that gold glove caliber defense and arm.
I wouldn’t see a trade for another bat as a replacement situation but rather a supplement. I still think Ozuna will hit around 25 HRs which isn’t his 2017 level but is OK. I’d never turn down a chance to add another good hitter if the price is fair, though.
Which of the guys that went to the Marlins are major losses, to you?
Ozuna will be fine, and I think he will end up with solid numbers this year. And as luck (bad) will have it, he most likely will have a monster year next year, and will then take his act elsewhere.
Management should not make a decision on Machado under the assumption that Ozuna is a bust. He has played 3 months as a Cardinal; way too short of a time to base a big decision on a short-term rental.
The Cubs could easily get Machado if they are willing to give up Russell and a top minor leaguer. That is a big if though. Their top minor league pitcher is out the rest of the season and that is a big trade chip they don’t have.
I don’t see the Cards going for Machado nor do I think they should if they have to gut the system. They should focus on run prevention.
I’m not sold on the fact the Dodgers are in on him. It just isn’t a Friedman type of move. I would think the Phillies would be the leaders in the clubhouse. A lot of their executives are former Orioles, they are in contention, and they have prospects and money to burn. Also, keep any eye on the Dbacks. They are desperate to hold off the Dodgers.
One AL team that should go after him is the Indians. There championship window is closing fast as they have several pending free agents and not a huge payroll capacity. This might be their last best chance to make a deep run.
They could probably use one more reliever but if Miller and Allen come back healthy from the DL they will be fine. An IF consisting of Ramirez, Lindor, and Machado wouldn’t be too shabby going down the stretch.
From @SchmuckStop: #Orioles might be testing the law of diminishing returns with Machado https://t.co/4lsJUa9oYq #MLB
— John Perrotto (@JPerrotto) July 4, 2018
If we are truly a front runner for Machado I give the front office credit for being aggressive because I have criticized them in the past for being passive, however, this is one time where I don’t think we should be aggressive. Are we really one player away from being a serious contender? I don’t think so therefore it makes no sense to gut our farm system for a guy we have zero chance of re-signing.
Like I’ve said before I think it is time to consider selling and re-tooling. That is different than tanking by the way! With the right moves we could be competitive next year even if we sell.
Like the article in VEB said the other day, it is admirable that the Cards try to contend every year but once in awhile you need to take a step back and punt, re-group, re-tool, and come up with a different group. MLB’s system really isn’t designed for a team to be competitive every year so it is surprising we have done it for as long as we have. But when you draft every year in the middle of the pack, and sign middle of the pack FA’s, guess where you are going to end up in the standings? Middle of the pack!
It might be time to do something different. This fan base is sophisticated to understand it, I think.
Need to eventually make room for O’Neill to see if he can cut down on his Ks and gain plate discipline. With DeJong, O’Neill, and Gorman (someday) we’ll have plenty of power in the middle of the lineup.
Remember how excited you were with the news of Scott Rolen becoming a Cardinal? For me, multiply that elation by 5 if Machado were to head our way. But only if we can lock him up for at least 5 years. To be a serious contender you have to have at least a couple 5-star players. The only position player we have resembling that distinction is an aging Yadier Molina. This team is presently full to the gills with 2 and 3 star players. This team and it’s fans are thirsting for a marquee player. Having one around makes other players around them better….just as having poor players ( cough cough….Dexter ) has the opposite effect. Let’s get back on the winning trail….Machado can do that for us.
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