March 25, 2020 at 10:45 pm #125333
Goold wrote just the other day about Randy having to return to Triple-A.
Please share a link to a TB article talking about him making the team. Anyone I know who follows the Rays counted all the established MLB outfielders ahead of him and drew the same conclusion as Goold. No room.March 26, 2020 at 8:37 am #125355bccranParticipantPaid - Annual
MLB.com lists the Rays top prospects and shows these players as the top outfielders in their system, along with their arrival times –
1. Josh Lowe – 2021
2. Moises Gomez – 2021
3. Nick Schnell – 2022
4.) Randy Arozarena – 2020March 26, 2020 at 10:00 am #12536114NyquisTParticipantPaid - Annual
I said this on another topic that I believe the Rays pinpointed Arozarena as the guy they wanted of the young OFs that the Cards have. The FO may have given them a list… they picked Randy and there is a number of good reasons why. Its warmer in Tampa for him anyway.March 26, 2020 at 10:29 am #125368bccranParticipantPaid - Annual
Here’s the important thing, 14. Liberatore was ranked by mlb.com at the time of the trade as the 41st best prospect in all of Milb. Jose Martinez is a 30 year old player who is severely limited on defense and slashed .269/.340./.410/.750 in 2019. The Rays also got a Competitive Round A pick and the Cardinals got a Competitive Round B round pick, plus catcher Edgaro Rodriguez. Edgaro slashed .330/.384/.492/.846 in the DSL in 2018 and .400/.429/.520/.949 in limited time in the GCL in 2019. Those are Herrera type numbers.
Now, when you take an overall look at that deal, what was the impetus for Tampa Bay to make that trade? Martinez? Don’t think so. Getting a Competitive Round A and giving up a Competitive Round B? Don’t think so.
No matter what some posters say, the key to that deal for the Rays was getting Randy Arozarena. It would be shame to downplay his value.March 26, 2020 at 12:20 pm #125371
And “some posters” downplay Martinez’ value, even though he is the only proven Major Leaguer in the trade. He is expected to be the Rays’ DH, perhaps in a platoon, so will not be exposed defensively and provides a power threat at a relatively low salary. He is a great fit for them as they are in “win now mode”, but when he gets too expensive, he will be gone, like so many others.
Trying to guess what positions each team took at the bargaining table is a waste of time, IMO. They made a trade they both liked. Good for them.
We get your point of view. It is repeated frequently. The outfielders the Cardinals kept are risky and can’t improve while the one they let get away is the real future star. It will be proven one way or another in time, not by stat lines in the rearview mirror.
Worrying about former Cardinals and second-guessing trades before the players have played even one real game on their new teams is not important to me, but maybe others have more to say…April 8, 2020 at 9:20 am #126221April 8, 2020 at 5:31 pm #126269
Rick Hummel is writing a series on catching up with former Cardinals.
“He said Marmol might throw this joker into the stands. So I was ready.” — Adron Chambers to Rick Hummel as the #HOF baseball writer continues his #Cardinals Where Are They Now? series. #stlcards https://t.co/6Tl79Fgg5VApril 9, 2020 at 3:45 pm #126317
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