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Goold wrote just the other day about Randy having to return to Triple-A.
Please share a link to a TB article talking about him making the team. Anyone I know who follows the Rays counted all the established MLB outfielders ahead of him and drew the same conclusion as Goold. No room.
MLB.com lists the Rays top prospects and shows these players as the top outfielders in their system, along with their arrival times –
1. Josh Lowe – 2021
2. Moises Gomez – 2021
3. Nick Schnell – 2022
4.) Randy Arozarena – 2020I said this on another topic that I believe the Rays pinpointed Arozarena as the guy they wanted of the young OFs that the Cards have. The FO may have given them a list… they picked Randy and there is a number of good reasons why. Its warmer in Tampa for him anyway.
Here’s the important thing, 14. Liberatore was ranked by mlb.com at the time of the trade as the 41st best prospect in all of Milb. Jose Martinez is a 30 year old player who is severely limited on defense and slashed .269/.340./.410/.750 in 2019. The Rays also got a Competitive Round A pick and the Cardinals got a Competitive Round B round pick, plus catcher Edgaro Rodriguez. Edgaro slashed .330/.384/.492/.846 in the DSL in 2018 and .400/.429/.520/.949 in limited time in the GCL in 2019. Those are Herrera type numbers.
Now, when you take an overall look at that deal, what was the impetus for Tampa Bay to make that trade? Martinez? Don’t think so. Getting a Competitive Round A and giving up a Competitive Round B? Don’t think so.
No matter what some posters say, the key to that deal for the Rays was getting Randy Arozarena. It would be shame to downplay his value.
And “some posters” downplay Martinez’ value, even though he is the only proven Major Leaguer in the trade. He is expected to be the Rays’ DH, perhaps in a platoon, so will not be exposed defensively and provides a power threat at a relatively low salary. He is a great fit for them as they are in “win now mode”, but when he gets too expensive, he will be gone, like so many others.
Trying to guess what positions each team took at the bargaining table is a waste of time, IMO. They made a trade they both liked. Good for them.
We get your point of view. It is repeated frequently. The outfielders the Cardinals kept are risky and can’t improve while the one they let get away is the real future star. It will be proven one way or another in time, not by stat lines in the rearview mirror.
Worrying about former Cardinals and second-guessing trades before the players have played even one real game on their new teams is not important to me, but maybe others have more to say…
Rick Hummel is writing a series on catching up with former Cardinals.
“He said Marmol might throw this joker into the stands. So I was ready.” — Adron Chambers to Rick Hummel as the #HOF baseball writer continues his #Cardinals Where Are They Now? series. #stlcards https://t.co/6Tl79Fgg5V
— Derrick Goold (@dgoold) April 8, 2020
ICYMI – 13-year veteran Mark Reynolds announces his retirement on @SiriusXM's @MadDogRadio:@DBacks | @Orioles | @Rockies
Reynolds with @JudgeTorre & @DannyKanell: pic.twitter.com/VdjLdXfwgG
— MLB Network Radio on SiriusXM (@MLBNetworkRadio) April 9, 2020
A good joke for the day out of New York…
Wish his curve would have flattened 14 years ago. 😀 https://t.co/yAJJZPcvVK
— Howie Rose (@HowieRose) April 18, 2020
Reminder that one #stlcards 2006 World Series win will be telecast each evening this week, starting tonight, on @FSMidwest. https://t.co/GRiCrJwHXm pic.twitter.com/bDUsCgcR0a
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) April 20, 2020
That 2006 Series win was so cathartic for me. I was born the year the Cards won their previous World Series so it had been a long time coming with many close calls during the times that I followed the team closely. Coming on the heels of the very disappointing 2004 and 2005 season endings, it was a very pleasant surprise that the 83 win Cards ran the table. I nearly hit my head on the ceiling from jumping so high after the final out against the Tigers.
Former Cardinals coach Rich Hacker, a New Athens product like Whitey Herzog, dies at 72 https://t.co/mOaNI8phCI
— STL Cardinals News (@STLCardsNews) April 23, 2020
Matt Keough pitched briefly for the Cardinals and his uncle Marty is a long-time scout for the organization.
Matt Keough, a former major league pitcher and an occasional figure on "Real Housewives of Orange County," died Friday at the age of 64. The cause was not made public. https://t.co/OS6h1LJZ6i
— CNN (@CNN) May 3, 2020
Thrilled that this news is finally public.
Long Gone Summer, my new nonfiction feature on the 1998 Home Run Chase between Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa, is coming next month to @espn @30for30.
It's been a huge joy to get to make this movie and I can't wait for y'all to see it. pic.twitter.com/vWb61It2Ub
— AJ Schnack (@ajschnack) May 5, 2020
Matt Keough’s ex-wife has now discussed cause of death and a few things about his recent personal life. Interestingly, she suggests that Covid-19 related forced inactivity may have played a part, as he went from riding his bike 20-30 miles a day to nothing.
Art Howe finished his playing career with the 1984-85 #stlcards. Pray for him…
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) May 15, 2020
Art Howe, who had been hospitalized w/COVID-19, went home today:
"It was just a long five days or so. I’m finally feeling a little bit better. Still not able to eat real good, taste buds are giving me a hard time. It’s just nice to be back home & hopefully continue to progress."
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) May 17, 2020
David Freese plans to participate in Cardinals Fantasy Camp.
An independent and well-balanced mid-term assessment of the Tyler O'Neill-Marco Gonzales trade. Final grades are still TBD, but Seattle is clearly ahead. https://t.co/1LlvAiv77v
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) May 20, 2020
https://t.co/0J8uFrRIbs I’ve always been fascinated why Gregg Jefferies was tormented with the #Mets and why he didn’t thrive as expected. A tale of wrong place, wrong time — and regrets from all involved 3 decades later.
— Joel Sherman (@Joelsherman1) May 24, 2020
With Michael Jordan’s baseball career in the spotlight recently, it serves as a good reminder that Brian Jordan probably doesn’t get enough respect in the two-sport conversation. But why is he always in the shadow of Bo Jackson, Deion Sanders and even MJ? https://t.co/FfZQGRxxdX
— Derek Shore (@D_Shore23) May 27, 2020
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