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September 26, 2025 at 10:16 am #293091
Kudos to Herrera for wanting to be a team player but I am still skeptical about moving him back to C. Another factor is injuries. He is less likely to get hurt at DH and we desperately need his bat in the lineup everyday.
September 26, 2025 at 10:17 am #293093Just saw something on Facebook that said DeWitt is going to open the coffers this off-season.
Assume it’s fake news.
I’ll believe it when I see it.
Rat, my guess is that the coffers are going to be closed tighter than they are now. FB doesn’t sound like a reliable news source.
September 26, 2025 at 2:38 pm #293102For what it is worth, Carey and Thompson during today’s telecast stated that next year was going to be a reset and the team wasn’t expecting to be competitive.
September 26, 2025 at 2:57 pm #293105Once the season is over, we will get some messaging from the new FO and maybe from ownership. I will read between the lines and post the translation.
September 26, 2025 at 3:12 pm #293106Paid – Annual
Once the season is over, we will get some messaging from the new FO and maybe from ownership. I will read between the lines and post the translation.We will all be waiting anxiously.
September 26, 2025 at 8:27 pm #293122The one way I could see the Cardinals trading Sonny Gray is if they were to buy two cheap pitchers with the money saved by trading Gray, leaving one rotation spot to fill (assuming they run Pallante out there again next year because he is cheap).
But I don’t see DeWitt eating $15 million to make a Gray trade attractive.
September 27, 2025 at 7:06 am #293135Herrera should be the DH due to his tendency to get injured. I do agree also the Cardinals need a bopper (HR hitter) in the OF. Unfortunately the Cards can’t sign any UFA, because it’s too expensive and a lot of the OF available are older 35+.
I am really not sold on either Victor Scott II or Nootbar. Nate Church was disappointing with his bat when called up, maybe he figures it out in the spring and beats someone out. Jordan Walkers regression really hurts, he was supposed to be that guy. Cardinals are stuck with him, maybe we’ll get lucky with Walker…I am not counting on it.
September 27, 2025 at 9:03 am #29314214NyquisT
ParticipantI agree with many others that Walker should learn to hit AAA pitching before taking a roster spot on the Cardinals. After DeWitt gets us another McGreevy type pitcher (young and high ceiling), good luck with that, he needs to add another CF outfielder. Scott 2 is a #4 OF. Not many OFers in the organization to count on.
September 27, 2025 at 9:11 am #293143Went to the game yesterday afternoon in Wrigley…. very very sad to say the least, I went to get my nachos and the Cubs put up 7.
Mikolas should DEFINITELY not be signed again
Pallante needs to be in the pen
De-no-wallet needs to just sell the team
Walker is either in Memphis or on another team
Baez needs at least a half year in Memphis, but very exciting kid. I’m not that excited about Davis
Way to many infielders, so Donovan could go for an impact bat/arm with another piece
The Springfield rotation would rival the STL rotation tomorrow
JJ, unless a LT deal is signed, needs to be in Memphis until April 20th or soSign a RF who can hit, I don’t give a crap about defense and three “project” SP’s
September 27, 2025 at 10:24 am #293145It’s hilarious the Mets now don’t even control their own destiny to get into the playoffs. Here is their payroll not even including the 11 arbitration eligible players they have on their roster:
Juan Soto – $61.9 mil
Francisco Lindor – $34.1 mil
Pete Alonso – $30 mil
Sean Manaea – $25 mil
Edwin Diaz – $21.5 mil
Starling Marte – $20.8 mil
Brandon Nimmo – $20.5 mil
Frankie Montas – $17 mil
Jeff McNeil – $15.8 mil
Kodai Senga – $15.7 mil
Clay Holmes – $13 mil
AJ Minter – $11 mil
Jesse Winker – $7.5 mil
Ryne Stanek – $4.5 mil
Griffin Canning – $4.3 mil
Brooks Raley – $1.5 mil
Drew Smith – $1 milThey are also paying Paul Blackburn $4.1 million to not be on their roster.
September 27, 2025 at 10:58 am #293147What are we now calling 2025? Certainly not a “reset.” We didn’t reset squat. We sat around for a year with a thumb in our ear.
I guess we fattened some wallets a bit for the rich guys.
What are we going to call 2026?
I suppose we could scrape around in the minors and see if we can put together a different-looking sub.500 team. Perhaps we can call it a breathalyzer season?
Or, maybe we could bring in a bunch of new coaches. That always works, or at least gives the impression of movement …
How about trading the Clydesdales for a player to be named later?
September 27, 2025 at 2:08 pm #293154Some more info regarding next season by Skip Carey on today’s telecast. Stated that Wilson Contreras has met with Bloom and told him he wants to be part of the rebuild.
September 27, 2025 at 3:16 pm #293158Sure he does. Unless he gets a bump to waive the ntc.
September 27, 2025 at 4:24 pm #293163
cardsfan64ParticipantHere is confirmation of that info:
After a lengthy meeting with Chaim Bloom at Wrigley Field on Friday, Willson Contreras said he would "like to be a part of the process" and remain with the Cardinals.
"They're going to need to have some kind of experience around them, and that's what I expressed."
— Katie Woo (@katiejwoo) September 27, 2025
September 27, 2025 at 4:35 pm #293164
jj-cf-stlParticipantHis type experience brings too much drama and bad baseball decisions. Sell if you can.
September 27, 2025 at 5:20 pm #293169My take on Contreras, he’s a thoroughly decent person who has handled a difficult situation gracefully.
I don’t know how much he could add though. He’s a DH who can play 1B adequately. His bat would be great as part of any type of productive lineup, with a couple good power bats for him to compliment. He’s not a stand-alone bat though. I am not aware that he has effective veteran leadership qualities. He soaks up an outsize chunk of payroll. His role conflicts with Herrera and Burleson, who are younger and cheaper.
September 27, 2025 at 7:13 pm #2931731982 willie
ParticipantWell the mets are the latest lesson that just paying a lot of money doesnt guarantee anything. Sure the dodgers won a couple but i still think hiring the right manager, general manager who know how to build a team without having a big purse is the way to go
September 27, 2025 at 8:11 pm #293174Yeah Willie, I’m really riding high on the Red’s bandwagon hoping they can bounce the Mets out of the post-season picture. It’s in my DNA…Haha!
September 27, 2025 at 8:16 pm #293176I don’t know if this has been said, but I’d send Jordan Walker to Mark McGwire this winter for some hitting advice and work. It would be a last gasp effort to see if he can reach his power potential.
The next thing they should do is follow the Nolen Ryan regime with their young starters. This worked very well a few years ago for the Rangers and again for a young Astros team.
Lastly, clear the deck. They are a season or two too late, but it has to happen now. Be aggressive next year. There’s nothing to lose. And for God’s sake, don’t be afraid to trade this winter, even some of the youth.
I’d change the manager, but that’s not likely until well into the season. I hope I’m wrong and they send him and this staff packing. Start fresh all around.
Here’s to a fun winter and new and better year of Cardinals baseball.
September 27, 2025 at 8:21 pm #293177Ok so, Contreras stays at 1b. That frees Burleson up to move to rf to replace Walker. I’d sure try to make a lf out of Herrera. Donovan can play third can’t he? Sagesse / Wetherhold is 2b. Winn of course has ss nailed down.
We can trade Nootbar for pitching or keep him I guess.
If Herrera is moved back to c then we still need a rh outfielder.
I can’t begin to unravel the starting pitching. I assume Gray is gone, I hope Mikolas is gone, Pallante just has to go to the pen. I think we need 3 SPs from somewhere….
September 27, 2025 at 8:32 pm #293178I have no problem with offering up the Nootz in a trade, but what sort or calibre of a pitcher do you think the Cardinals would receive in return? I’m guessing any arm they’d get for Nootbar would be considerably less than second rate.
September 27, 2025 at 9:08 pm #293180
jj-cf-stlParticipantIf Willson wants to stay, catch him 😜
How you like them apples Mo?Sooo, who do you want at 1B? Burly? To keep him away from the outfield grass?
Is Herrera at DH? Arenado and Winn left side. Who is at 2B? The rook and Saggese (UI)? Noot, Donny and Scott outfield.
Catcher production upgrade.
Shame we can’t pitch. Sell!September 28, 2025 at 11:11 am #29319414NyquisT
ParticipantThe Springfield rotation would rival the STL rotation tomorrow.
For the guys who follow the affiliates: wasn’t it great following the S-Cardss this season. I had a good feeling about them coming back in the Championship series. They opened the season with the rotation of Roby-Rajcic-Hansen-Mautz Henderson. Both Roby(7)(TCN 8/15) and Rajcic(23) pitched well before their promotions. Rincon(34) replaced Roby and Winquist(22) replaced Rajcic. Both were more than adequate. They worked in Lin(30) in Sept and Hence(6) but only started 3 games in June/July.
It was Mautz(17)-Henderson(12)-Hansen(27) who kept the team in 1st-place all season and then in the play-offs. Mautz was excellent starting in July and really kickass in the play-offs. He only missed one rotation start all season. IMO he is the organizations Pitcher of the Tear. Henderson and Hansen made all of their rotation spots and moved their stock up. They got consistently good starts all season…. you can look it up. I won’t give you the numbers on these guys but trust me there was a reason why they won the Texas League. I hope to see the Big Three in Memphis next season. There should be some open spots because hopefully a couple of the AAA starters will be in STL.
Bottom line: For me the Springfield successes took away some of the sting of the STL’s less than stellar 2025…. all season long.
September 28, 2025 at 1:31 pm #293205Contreras said he would like to be back. He didn’t say he would definitely be back. Nor has Bloom said that Contreras would definitely be back. I think everything is on the table so I wouldn’t read too much into it. Personally I think they should trade him for pitching and put Burly at 1B. I like Burly much more at 1B than the OF.
September 28, 2025 at 1:51 pm #293208
jj-cf-stlParticipantIf Burly is at 1B he picks up half a win. The Rpos is a wash, but his career fielding numbers at 1B are much better than the outfield.
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