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May 21, 2022 at 12:43 pm #185794
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ParticipantOther guys have been rushed through the system, so why not Graceffo? Depends on what he needs to work on to continue to be successful at higher levels.
May 21, 2022 at 1:33 pm #185801The Cards are probably hoping for some Oscar Mercado lightning in a bottle from Perez. I’d like to see him find it, but it seems like he will have to do so in another organization.
On the Graceffo and Winn front, it’s getting harder to see them stay at Peoria much longer. I’d enjoy seeing Winn and Walker in that Springfield lineup for a while. A lot of base swiping potential there, in addition to their bats.
May 21, 2022 at 4:46 pm #185823On the topic of Graceffo, one thing that stands out (among many) is his ability so far to attack both lefty & righty bats with equal aplomb. Per his splits at milb.com, lefty lumber is hitting just .138 while righties have yet to homer in more than 100 at-bats. And according to Baseball-Reference, with runners on base, batters are hitting a meager .140/.173/.180. Yeah, they are slugging .180.
I don’t think I’d promote Masyn Winn quite yet, as he just turned 20 a couple months ago. But Graceffo is 22, and certainly doesn’t appear to have anything left to learn at Peoria. (And speaking of Peoria, it’s a pitcher’s park but GG has a distinctly lower ERA on the road at 0.64 across five starts.)
May 21, 2022 at 9:04 pm #185876Winn and Graceffo starting for Springfield on the Sunday before Memorial Day?
May 22, 2022 at 8:57 am #185900An interesting assessment of Jordan Walker’s defensive capability and future role. (Goold in P-D)
“With exceptional athleticism, Walker could move around the diamond – playing third for now, playing first some, and eventually seeing right or left field – and become a middle-order hitter who can manage multiple positions.”
May 22, 2022 at 2:21 pm #185948Antico with a rough day on the bases yesterday. After opening the season 18-18 on steal attempts he gets thrown out twice in one game including a pickoff. Winn I believe is still 15-15. Tommy Jew is also on a 30+ pace.
May 24, 2022 at 10:25 am #186100SS Masyn Winn has been promoted from Single-A Peoria to Double-A Springfield. Hard-throwing #STLCards prospects Michael McGreevy & Gordon Graceffo also promoted to Springfield. https://t.co/pbjoASo6q5
— John Denton (@JohnDenton555) May 24, 2022
May 24, 2022 at 11:14 am #18610114NyquisT
ParticipantSpringfield is looking better already. Good luck to this trio.
May 24, 2022 at 11:16 am #18610214NyquisT
Participantooops…. just made the roster changes. Peoria is looking real sorry right now.
May 24, 2022 at 11:53 am #186106Details on all 15 moves made today posted on the front page for members:
May 24, 2022 at 2:35 pm #186116Given the struggles of Palm Beach outfielders, I am concerned how competitive the Complex team will be. One thing is fairly certain, the team will be very young. I am curious to see Willis, Cho and Taveras.
May 24, 2022 at 3:31 pm #186119If kept on schedule, Mcgreevy’s rotation turn could be tonight, while Graceffo should make AA debut tomorrow or Thursday.
May 24, 2022 at 5:09 pm #186122Mcgreevy’s rotation turn could be tonight
Springfield’s game rained out.
May 31, 2022 at 9:22 am #186649Very impressed with Winn and Walker. Hard to believe that 3 2020 draftees are on the verge of the big leagues, with 2 being either 19 or 20 years old.
May 31, 2022 at 10:26 am #186655I was excited to see Darlin Moquete’s promotion to Palm Beach after seeing the numbers he has put up the last few years. He just needs to be more consistent to get a real chance to stay there or move up.
Brian, have any thoughts on him (ie. did you see him at ST)?June 2, 2022 at 9:02 am #18683714NyquisT
ParticipantYesterday’s organizational-wide games were sensational. Great pitching everywhere. (Liberatore-Thomas-McGreevy-Pereira (1st start for Peoria)-even Gerard in the PB suspended game. Too many batters had big games to list here. Many stats moved up to the positive side. Even the bullpens were very good. This was the best day for the entire system since somewhere in 2020….. maybe ’19.
June 2, 2022 at 9:27 am #186838bccran
ParticipantInteresting to follow them in 3 general categories –
1.) Really exciting prospects who could possibly win a major league starting job some day – Herrera, Burleson, Walker, Winn, McGreevey, Graceffo, etc.
2.) Guys who may get a cup of coffee and spend at least a little time on a major league roster some day – Pages, Pacheco, Baker, Gomez, etc.
3.) Guys who are just minor league fillers and have little chance – D. Perez, Fletcher, Pinder, Lunn, Leahy, Toerner, Hurst, etc.
June 2, 2022 at 10:00 am #186840Cf64 asked:
Brian, have any thoughts on him (ie. did you see him at ST)?
Yes. Moquete was an honorable mention in our 2021 rankings. Good plate discipline in the past, but in his best season, his BABIP was .453 after .401 the year before. He turns 23 this September after starting his career in 2018, so he isn’t likely to have enough runway to reach StL.
June 4, 2022 at 9:52 am #187000Thanks for the insight, Brian. Hoping he can prove you wrong, but I suspect you are correct. He needs to step it up with this chance in Palm Beach.
June 4, 2022 at 12:08 pm #18701814NyquisT
ParticipantJust an observation.
In case you don’t follow Peoria Chiefs, Mike Antico is their lead off batter. He has been in the low .200s all season. But check out his other stats that make him the perfect lead-off guy on the team.
177 ABs
213 PAs
32 BBS
2 HBP
OBP .347Okay he gets on base.
25 SBs -1st in the 12 team MWL.
Peoria is 1st in the league with 88 SBs….. 2nd is at 71. These guys are running every night.There’s too much CF talent ahead of the 5′-10″ LHB – 8th rd in 21 and is 24 y.o.. He probably won’t ever see the Cards dugout but for now he must be fun to watch for the Chiefs’ fans. There is some CF wiggle room in the Springfield OF…. ut Winn is cemented at the lead-off spot there…. unless the 20 y.o. jumps to Memphis. That’s a realistic move BTW.
June 5, 2022 at 12:22 am #187088Antico is a personal favorito of mine. I am not convinced he wont make STL. Antico got 6 ab’s with the big Club during Spring Training and was scheduled tô start the last game before breaking camp that got rained out. When was the last time a player with a $20K bônus saw that much playing time in ST in his first Spring Training?
Btw he was 3-5 with a Homer tonght.
June 5, 2022 at 6:57 am #187091I don’t know anything about Antico except what I just read above, but he sounds like a lot of A ball scrappers. If he can get on base in the upper levels he could be worth keeping an eye on, but most of them end up over matched by the higher level competition. That the player development wonks seem to like him will help his chances of getting some upper level reps even if he starts slow.
June 5, 2022 at 8:07 am #187094bccran
ParticipantGuys like him need to have more skills than just getting on base.
They need to have either power or speed. And even speed is being somewhat deemphasized with the declining number of stolen bases in MLB. Add Antico to the list of little OFs like Toerner, Hurst, Pinder, Reichenborn, Moquete,
etc. who are just MILB fillers.June 5, 2022 at 9:12 am #187095Carlson left after the 5th inning in his 2nd rehab game with Springfield. He was lifted in a double switch in the 8th I think in his first game. Hopefully they are just taking it easy with him and no issues.
June 5, 2022 at 3:05 pm #187113We will see how Kramer Robertson does with the Braves.
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