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  • #171212
    14NyquisT
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    There’s a good piece of buzz from A.E. Schafer at VEB about some AAA players that have been making some noise recently. Good read for those interested in what we have in the pipeline.

    https://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2021/8/29/22647175/system-sundays-29th-august-2021-updating-some-hitters-of-note#comments

    #171288
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    Yepez is having a very impressive year. Read that article earlier and his year is even more impressive looking at the K/BB and the bad luck on batter balls. Maybe he’s a player maybe he’s not, but he’s sure a lot more than anyone figured he was when that Matt Adam’s trade was made

    #171292
    bccran
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    Really good stuff from VEB.

    #171299
    gscottar
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    So the rosters expand to 28 tomorrow. Will the Cardinals immediately call up two players? If so, who will it be?

    Ali Sanchez might be a candidate if they want a third catcher.
    Juan Yepez might get the call but he doesn’t have a 40 man spot.
    Maybe Seth Elledge if they want another bullpen arm.

    #171300
    bccran
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    If it’s a position player, here are the OPS stats for the Redbirds –

    Yepez – .981
    Nootbaar – .900
    Capel – .803
    Gorman – .796
    Robertson – .701
    Sanchez – .679
    Mendoza – .617
    Hurst – .568

    The decision seems pretty obvious.

    #171305
    blingboy
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    Buy who would save us the most runs?

    Seriously, you have to consider the 40 man.

    #171306
    bccran
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    As I stated, BB, the above are only the position players. Here’s the WHIP of the various pitchers at Memphis for the year.

    Warner – 1.07
    Whitley – 1.13
    Ramirez – 1.17
    Rondon – 1.37
    Thomas – 1.40
    Woodford – 1.56
    Elledge – 1.86

    #171307
    Brian Walton
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    One spot is likely for Hudson, but it may not be immediate. Or in the interim, it could be any of the 40-man guys we’ve already seen this year (Oviedo, Woodford, Elledge).

    The other I’ve heard rumors may be a third catcher, opening up some time for Knizner. Sanchez has the 40-man spot.

    I’d be surprised if there is a new addition to the 40-man now.

    #171308
    gscottar
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    bccran, there are players on both of your lists that do not have a 40 man spot, meaning they are unlikely to get called up.

    #171313
    gscottar
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    If true Dickson will need a 40 man spot.

    #171316
    bccran
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    gscottar –

    The following are suspect to hold a place on the 40 man –

    Andrew Miller
    Justin Miller
    John Quesada
    Brandon Waddell
    T. J. Zuech

    Can you make a good case that any of them should remain on the 40 man roster?

    #171319
    UncleDenny
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    Forgot Matt Carpenter and Max Moroff

    #171320
    forsch31
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    Moroff doesn’t count against the 40 man since he is on the 60 day IL.

    #171326
    Cardinals27
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    I don’t get why we don’t use Oviedo In relief the rest of the year instead of adding Dickson? He hadn’t been pitching well at Memphis since they sent him down.

    #171329
    UncleDenny
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    forsch31 when I said Moroff I meant in the off-season housecleaning. While we are at it add Williams and Dean.

    #171330
    Cardinals27
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    I wonder if Herrera and Santos may get called up to Memphis to replace Dickson and Sanchez? Or maybe bring up Pallante for pen use?

    #171331
    blingboy
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    Elledge has a 1.861 WHIP in Memphis this year and yet he gets mentioned as a possible call up. He throws hard and strikes out a lot of guys but has always allowed way too much traffic on the base paths from walks and hits to be of any use. 7th year in system and doesn’t have a prayer of being useful on the MLB roster. I think he is an good example of how the fixation on velocity and K rate has doomed the pitcher side of the system. He was put on the 40 man roster and made it all the way to MLB without demonstrating the ability to keep opponents off the bases at any level above A ball. Johan Quezada is the same guy. I am sure there are more.

    #171332
    Brian Walton
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    bccran said:

    The following are suspect to hold a place on the 40 man –

    Andrew Miller
    Justin Miller
    John Quesada
    Brandon Waddell
    T. J. Zuech

    Can you make a good case that any of them should remain on the 40 man roster?

    Well, four of the five are currently on the injured list. That seems a pretty good start.

    They do have to clear one spot for Dickson… but that could be a move of one of the injured pitchers to the 60-day IL.

    #171353
    gscottar
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    Can you make a good case that any of them should remain on the 40 man roster?

    Like Brian said, 4 of the 5 are on the IL. Plus, even if Miller wasn’t on the IL I doubt the Cardinals would DFA him.

    #171354
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    Elledge has a 1.861 WHIP in Memphis this year and yet he gets mentioned as a possible call up.

    The only reason I mentioned him is that he is on the 40 man roster and some of the other options aren’t. The Cardinals usually choose the path of least resistance but it looks like this time they won’t if they promote Dickson.

    #171356
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    UncleDenny, I’m sorry. I misunderstood your time frame. I agree that Moroff should be gone after the year. I also agree that Williams should be removed from the 40 man roster. At Dean’s age, I don’t care if he is removed but I still think there is a small chance he could have a couple of good years in the majors. However, with the prospects coming up from behind that need playing time in AAA and Gorman almost ready for the majors, I am willing to lose Dean for the 40 man roster space.

    #171790
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    I am thinking Santos should be in our top 30. He is old for a prospect, but his numbers are good, and he has good stuff. He may need to be added to the 40 man roster, as I believe he can be a 7 year free agent. The Cards just don’t have enough pitching depth, as we learned the hard way this year.

    #171799
    gscottar
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    Sad to see FaGalde go.

    #171802
    Cardinals27
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    I’m excited to see that Francisco will join Walker and Winn in Peoria. And a current draftee has made it to High A.

    #171806
    Cardinals27
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    You can really make an argument that we haven’t had a good or surprising pitching performance out of our top 50 prospects coming into 2021. Liberatore has had growing pains, but has improved as the season has gone on. Thompson, as has been discussed here, should have been sent down to AA at some point. Oviedo may be better as a reliever. Pallante and Ralston have good stuff, but slowed by IL stints, and should pitch at AAA and AA respectively next year.

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