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  • #213330
    Ratsbuddy
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    Is Flaherty hurt already?????

    #213331
    blingboy
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    My take is he’s working on stuff.

    #213334
    Brian Walton
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    Today’s game is audio only on MLB.com.

    #213335
    Brian Walton
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    Three ex-Cards in the Nats’ lineup.

    #213337
    Brian Walton
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    Goldschmidt and Arenado go deep back to back against Patrick Corbin in the top of the first. Liberatore had a smooth B1st.

    #213344
    Brian Walton
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    Another one of the day’s highlights as the Cards win 5-3 over the Nats. They have won three of four games this spring.

    The Cards are off Wednesday. On Thursday, Adam Wainwright will make his last start prior to the WBC against the Astros and Framber Valdez at Roger Dean.

    #213347
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    It would definitely be a big plus if Liberatore delivers on some of the promise this year. I haven’t counted on it and think if he doesn’t emerge this year, it might not (probably won’t?) be in the cards. Maybe he can be the main reason PECOTA undersells the Cards for 2023.

    #213350
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    It has become clear that Walker in LF is a thing, and not just where he could fit in the lineup on a given day. So, what thing is it? Is there some particular reason why guys like Gomez and Carlson would be placed in RF rather than LF? Is Walker not a RFer after all? Is the thinking that when Walker breaks in it will be in LF? Why?

    On another note, signing Matt Adams might be a good move for the Nats. If anybody would be helped by the shift ban its him.

    #213351
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    Maybe the braintrust is rehearsing a dry run for the possibilty of O’Neill in CF if Carlson falters and they feel like Walker’s ready. If they’d be comfortable with Walker in RF, they’d certainly feel that way if he were placed in LF. And it may just be a simple case of, hey, it’s only ST’ing, so lets move everyone around and see what’s possible just in case. At any rate, the Nootz is the only sure thing in the OF…Rats’ll be happy about that…

    #213352
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    It is a conundrum wrapped in an enigma, TD. I bet I’m the only one who has noticed that Walker has made his debut on the official depth chart on the Cardinals official site, cardinals.mlb. Yes, he appears on the MLB depth chart even though he is not even on the 40 man roster. But he is listed as depth in RF not LF. The cleaning lady didn’t get the memo.

    #213354
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    Yeah Bling, I was also led to understand that Walker was being groomed and championed to eventually be placed in RF. In any event, I’ve been tuning in to the ST’ing games that are available to me and the only time I really look up at the TV and pay close attention is when Walker steps into the box or the baseball heads in his direction in the OF. These past few days are the first opportunity I’ve had to lay eyes on him and I’ll say that he certainly is an athletic looking, big and lean young man and I’m pleasantly impressed. If he performs well in ST’ing, I say to let him rip anywhere on the playing field that they can wedge him in.

    #213360
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    They rewarded O’Neil for his off season work by showcasing him in CF to begin spring. TO is now leaving and the truth will be revealed while Noot and TO are gone. I suspect we see Gomez some in CF. If Walker starts seeing time in right, then O’Neil in CF was just a kindness.
    The biggest story is that Walker could go north. If Walker and Carlson solidify roles, the WBC could end up Bonilla-ing TO or Noot.

    #213361
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    Good observations Nigel. The worm turns.

    #213362
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    Here is a question: If the thinking was that both O’Neill and Carlson would remain part of the outfield, what reason would there be for switching places, TO to center an DC to corner? That scenario doesn’t seem to make any sense.

    #213364
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    DC is by no means an exceptional outfielder. He’s pretty much average. TON has a gold glove and very good speed. He could very easily be a better CF. In fact, I was somewhat surprised when he didn’t move there following the Bader trade. Probably just because DC had more recent experience there and we were in the homestretch of the season. But TON could already be a better CF choice defensively. Ultimately,I think this is more about having interchangeable parts than anything. If DC can’t hit right handers again this year, then he can be taken out and TON can be moved to CF (or start the game there to begin with). But there is no universe where Gomez pushes DC out of CF. That’s just silly.

    #213366
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    I would point out that the Cards org had no idea that Adolis Garcia could play CF at the MLB level before giving him away. I wouldn’t blame them for having a look at Gomez before taking the wonks’ word for it.

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    I thought Carslon looked better in CF than RF last year. Jnevel might be right in that it is about building flexibility. It’s easier to mix and match pieces in the outfield when two or three of the pieces can handle CF adequately or better.

    #213368
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    Well, if that’s your thought process, then we should go ahead and give Luken Baker a chance at CF as well just to see if he’s actually good at it. Maybe he’ll surprise us.

    Gomez actually has played some CF in the past. But he’s not good as an outfielder. Bad routes. Probably bad reads. And he’s just not all that fast.

    #213369
    Brian Walton
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    If it is not “the wonks”, then it is analytics. Double points if you can blame it on both. 😉

    #213374
    Ratsbuddy
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    I want a shortstop playing shortstop.

    I want a 2ndbaseman playing 2ndbase.

    I want a 3rdbaseman playing 3rdbase.

    I want a centerfielder playing CF.

    Quotes attributed to Dorrel Norman Elvert Herzog

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    #213376
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    I gotta disagree on the double points. They are redundant. Without analytics, there would be no wonks…and vice versa.

    And the wonks are easy to spot. They’re the guys in the polo shirts, haha.

    #213377
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    That’s a pretty sweet quote coming from Whitey since he was a utility guy throughout his career. Of course at one point, he did admit baseball was very good to him ever since he quit trying to play it.

    #213378
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    no disrespect as he looks solid…but at 30 why is “Don Quixote” getting so much playing time? Is he really our best depth option?

    Yes I know his name is Juniel Querecuto

    #213379
    Brian Walton
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    Rats, what do you do when your main guy at a position is injured or unavailable? One of Whitey’s best and most reliable players had this career games played total:

    2B 649 games
    SS 364 games
    3B 58 games
    RF 47 games
    1B 23 games
    LF 11 games
    CF 7 games
    P 3 games
    C 1 game

    That is all nine positions. What did Whitey say about him?

    #213380
    blingboy
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    If it is not “the wonks”, then it is analytics. Double points if you can blame it on both.

    What if I blame the polo shirt crowd?

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