February 2, 2022 at 1:36 pm #179698LoganAlpha30X7ParticipantFree
And then nobody actually asked Albert whether he really wanted to play or not…February 2, 2022 at 4:24 pm #179701
Part of you recognizes that these items have to be addressed in the labor deal so go after low-hanging fruit. The other part recognizes that there’s no one blinking and therefore it comes across as no one having a sense of urgency. Spring Training will be shortened or canceled. https://t.co/KHJauMz7QF
— Maury Brown (@BizballMaury) February 2, 2022
“Talks haven’t yet begun,” is the way one players side person put it. From here, players did offer a 12-team playoff format and MLB did propose a universal DH and drop free agent compensation. But on the biggest issues it’s been mostly baby steps on both sides.
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) February 2, 2022February 3, 2022 at 11:19 am #179727CariocaCardinalParticipantPaid - Monthly
Another reason I am optomistic is it appears a framework acceptable to both sides has been established. Now they just have to agree on the bonus pool amount.February 3, 2022 at 11:27 am #179729
Reports are that the two sides are stuck on at least two major issues – Super two for all players and revenue sharing reduction. MLB says these are not on the table, while the MLBPA is demanding them. Given all the other outstanding issues, too, I hadn’t seen anyone declaring an agreement on framework.
CC, I really hope your optimism proves correct, though…February 3, 2022 at 5:22 pm #1797361982 willieParticipantPaid - Annual
Haven’t seen anything indicating it is close.February 3, 2022 at 7:49 pm #179746February 4, 2022 at 9:17 am #179753gscottarParticipantPaid - AnnualFebruary 4, 2022 at 10:49 am #179756February 4, 2022 at 10:54 am #179757
Truer words were never spoken. Yet they ring hollow. Blaming it on generic “baseball” glosses over his own role as a player leader. When push comes to shove, Waino and the other players want the owners to be the ones to yield.
“The game of baseball is a very lucrative thing for players and owners. The ones that get left out of that are always the fans, unfortunately. Baseball sometimes just needs to get out of its own way.”
— Derrick S. Goold (@dgoold) February 4, 2022February 4, 2022 at 12:33 pm #179764February 4, 2022 at 1:17 pm #179767LoganAlpha30X7ParticipantFree
Again like I said, things will get fixed when both sides start to lose $…
And then both sides will claim that they were the victims in the fight…February 4, 2022 at 1:24 pm #179768kscardfanParticipantFree
Need a fans union.February 4, 2022 at 5:50 pm #179775Nathan Leopold Jr.ParticipantFree
I wonder if the season is in jeopardy?February 4, 2022 at 8:56 pm #179782
Not yet, Nate, but a full spring training seems unlikely at this point.February 5, 2022 at 6:36 am #179783
As is painfully clear, MLB currently has no Collective Bargaining Agreement in place. Part 6 of The Cardinal Nation's series on the History of Labor Struggles in MLB focuses on how professional sports' first CBA was enacted 54 years ago this month. (free) https://t.co/pVXTpTqKJj pic.twitter.com/nHI1ksgaCM
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) February 5, 2022February 5, 2022 at 10:08 am #179784
Maybe a completely lost year like Hockey had is what it will take to fix this for a while.
The Covid year in 2020 and the labor year in 2022 would certainly set the game back some.
1994 is a distant memory for most now and as I recall it took Sosa – McGwuire in 1998 to fully reengage the fans.
Due to Covid cancellations and political messaging turning me off – I learned that I could live without sports entertainment. I dove deep into the study of WW2 military and geopolitical history.
I’d rather have baseball than not have it but a certain part of me also wants to see all the major sports leagues knocked down a peg or two……February 5, 2022 at 12:49 pm #179789bccranParticipant
Agree, ZTR. With the lockout, ads on pitcher’s mounds, potential of corporate ads on uniforms, and the influx of MLB betting, it’s pushing the patience of the average fan. MLB simply doesn’t get what they’re doing to the sport. They’re alienating the long time fans at the same time the younger generation is turning away from the sport because it’s “boring”.February 5, 2022 at 6:12 pm #179792PugsleyAddamsParticipantPaid - Annual
Not to worry gang. I hope nobody actually believes that we’re going to lose regular season games. Just not going to happen. We will be playing ball before you know it.February 5, 2022 at 8:06 pm #179796858booyahParticipantFree
We’ll have baseball this season. Maybe not until June but we’ll have it.February 6, 2022 at 9:10 am #179800
I do think we end up with a full or very close to full regular season but with shortened spring training there will likely be more injuries and some poor baseball as they ‘play themselves back into shape.’February 6, 2022 at 9:20 am #179802
In rough terms, to have a full regular season, a deal would need to be not only agreed to, but ratified and signed by the end of this month – just three weeks from now. That feels really aggressive, especially considering no further sessions between the two sides are even scheduled currently. I am struggling for facts that would help me feel more optimistic.February 6, 2022 at 9:33 am #179805
Feb 6, 1958 – Ted Williams signed a contract with the Red Sox for $135,000 making him the highest paid player in MLB history.
$1 in 1958 = $9.65 today so lets round that to 10.
In today’s dollars the Splendid Splinter would be getting $1,350,000 as the highest paid player.
These guys can cry me a river.February 6, 2022 at 12:00 pm #179806gscottarParticipantPaid - Annual
Pugs, I like your optimism and I hope you are right but I am seeing little evidence of it so far. Neither side seems willing to budge much. Also, neither side has much leadership, especially MLB. The next time Manfred does something smart will be the first time.February 7, 2022 at 6:38 am #179824February 7, 2022 at 6:45 am #179825
“If [owners] proposed the exact same deal we have right now, we’d probably go play baseball, to be honest with you,” Adam Wainwright said this afternoon. “That’s just not happening. Not even close, to be honest with you.” Story to come later.
— Jeff Jones (@jmjones) February 6, 2022
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