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  • #179698
    LoganAlpha30X7
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    And then nobody actually asked Albert whether he really wanted to play or not…

    #179701
    Brian Walton
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    #179727
    CariocaCardinal
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    Another reason I am optomistic is it appears a framework acceptable to both sides has been established. Now they just have to agree on the bonus pool amount.

    #179729
    Brian Walton
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    Reports are that the two sides are stuck on at least two major issues – Super two for all players and revenue sharing reduction. MLB says these are not on the table, while the MLBPA is demanding them. Given all the other outstanding issues, too, I hadn’t seen anyone declaring an agreement on framework.

    CC, I really hope your optimism proves correct, though…

    #179736
    1982 willie
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    Haven’t seen anything indicating it is close.

    #179746
    Brian Walton
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    “A quick end to the lockout seems quite remote…”

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    gscottar
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    #179756
    Brian Walton
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    This story theorizes that Manfred, etc. want to use the mediator to try to help them get the various owners on the same page.

    #179757
    Brian Walton
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    Truer words were never spoken. Yet they ring hollow. Blaming it on generic “baseball” glosses over his own role as a player leader. When push comes to shove, Waino and the other players want the owners to be the ones to yield.

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    Brian Walton
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    #179767
    LoganAlpha30X7
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    Again like I said, things will get fixed when both sides start to lose $…

    And then both sides will claim that they were the victims in the fight…

    #179768
    kscardfan
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    Need a fans union.

    #179775
    Nathan Leopold Jr.
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    I wonder if the season is in jeopardy?

    #179782
    Brian Walton
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    Not yet, Nate, but a full spring training seems unlikely at this point.

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    Brian Walton
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    #179784
    ZTR
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    Maybe a completely lost year like Hockey had is what it will take to fix this for a while.

    The Covid year in 2020 and the labor year in 2022 would certainly set the game back some.

    1994 is a distant memory for most now and as I recall it took Sosa – McGwuire in 1998 to fully reengage the fans.

    Due to Covid cancellations and political messaging turning me off – I learned that I could live without sports entertainment. I dove deep into the study of WW2 military and geopolitical history.

    I’d rather have baseball than not have it but a certain part of me also wants to see all the major sports leagues knocked down a peg or two……

    #179789
    bccran
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    Agree, ZTR. With the lockout, ads on pitcher’s mounds, potential of corporate ads on uniforms, and the influx of MLB betting, it’s pushing the patience of the average fan. MLB simply doesn’t get what they’re doing to the sport. They’re alienating the long time fans at the same time the younger generation is turning away from the sport because it’s “boring”.

    #179792
    PugsleyAddams
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    Not to worry gang. I hope nobody actually believes that we’re going to lose regular season games. Just not going to happen. We will be playing ball before you know it.

    #179796
    858booyah
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    We’ll have baseball this season. Maybe not until June but we’ll have it.

    #179800
    ZTR
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    I do think we end up with a full or very close to full regular season but with shortened spring training there will likely be more injuries and some poor baseball as they ‘play themselves back into shape.’

    #179802
    Brian Walton
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    In rough terms, to have a full regular season, a deal would need to be not only agreed to, but ratified and signed by the end of this month – just three weeks from now. That feels really aggressive, especially considering no further sessions between the two sides are even scheduled currently. I am struggling for facts that would help me feel more optimistic.

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    Feb 6, 1958 – Ted Williams signed a contract with the Red Sox for $135,000 making him the highest paid player in MLB history.

    $1 in 1958 = $9.65 today so lets round that to 10.

    In today’s dollars the Splendid Splinter would be getting $1,350,000 as the highest paid player.

    These guys can cry me a river.

    #179806
    gscottar
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    Pugs, I like your optimism and I hope you are right but I am seeing little evidence of it so far. Neither side seems willing to budge much. Also, neither side has much leadership, especially MLB. The next time Manfred does something smart will be the first time.

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    Brian Walton
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    Brian Walton
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