2022 CBA negotiations

I am going to bump this thread so it is easier to find. As soon as the world series is over, possibly tonight, this will probably become the dominant thread because most mlb activity will grind to a halt until this CBA is resolved. Unfortunately I expect it to drag on for several more months.

That is IMO partially caused by MLB becoming”woke” and backing BLM. I know several people that won’t watch MLB because of that.

If there is no agreement by the end of December 1 will all baseball activity essentially be frozen? No signings, no trades, no winter meetings, no Cardinal winter warmup, etc..?

I’d like to see a hefty revenue shrinkage (50%) across the board in all the major professional sports.

But that is the opposite of what is going on. Growing revenue is all that leagues think about. That is why we have no scheduled doubleheaders, no world series games at night, local tv blackouts, expanded playoffs, longer commercial breaks, etc…..

Isn’t next week just about Zero Hour – somewhat?

Wasn’t there a split season in ’81 where the Cards had the over all best record in the NL but didn’t win the division in either half of the season and so did not make the playoffs?

Here is an idea. Each team splits the profit 50-50 with the players and all contracts are essentially performance based with some baseline mi nimum based on years of ML service with A, AA, and AAA counting as .25, .50, and .75 respectively.

The BL min = $100,000k plus $100,000k per year of ML service. Any money a player makes above that is earned by being above the current year’s league average in WAR with all above average WAR players on a particular team splitting 50% of that team’s profits on a pro rata basis.

Performing below average in WAR will not reduce a player’s base salary but if a team makes no money then there is nothing to split among the WAR+ players. Ownership and FO salaries are set and equal across all teams to reduce monkey business.

It is difficult for me to choose sides in these negotiations because I don’t like hard headed extremists, which both sides have. I think the owners deserve to make a profit and I think the players deserve their fair share of the revenue. What I don’t like are negotiators who are so hardline that it is “my way or the highway.” Hopefully both sides will come to their senses and realize that some compromise will be necessary because if games are lost the harm to the game could be immense.

Most likely there will be some movement to either allow players to get to arbitration sooner or to free agency sooner but not both. There should also probably be some kind of salary cap and salary floor.

We can hope a resolution is reached before March 1 so spring training can commence. I wouldn’t expect much movement before then because it usually takes deadlines to get people moving.

Good point..

It does seem more than a little weird that the owners and players are prepared to completely shut down a financial system that individual parties on both sides are exploiting in the last days and hours before the CBA deadline. Talk about mixed messages.

— Buster Olney (@Buster_ESPN) November 29, 2021

Picking your own playoff opponent? Utterly stupid.

Stlcard25, you have a good idea with that last part. Need to be try to curtail this losing mentality to gain. I’m all for teams that understand that the coming season may not be their best chance so they decide rather than going all in, they work on their team so they are better next year or after but just blowing it up and still expecting fans to walk through door is wrong. I also think letting teams pick their opponents is stupid and I totally don’t think we need more playoff teams. It will just encourage more teams to settle for just being mediocre and still having the shot at playoffs. Plus the better free agents will go to even less teams given that teams may be less willing to pay more since you basically have a fifty fifty shot to make playoffs regardless. Could go other way but I doubt it.