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  • #155018
    bccran
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    JJ –

    1.) In 2018 at Springfield, Edman’s OBP was .350. When he was promoted to Memphis that season, it was .382. At Memphis in 2019, during the first part of the season his OBP was .356. After he was promoted to the Cardinals it was .350. I wouldn’t put too much stock in 2020 because of the late start, all the double headers and moving around to different positions.

    2.) Here’s Dylan Carlson’s OBP at every level –

    A – .345
    A+ – .345
    AA – .364
    AAA – .418

    #155022
    blingboy
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    We could clean up in the Pacific Coast League.

    #155027
    bccran
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    blingboy –

    Should we throw all the minor league performances of the players out the window, as meaningless? That’s not what the Cardinals do, especially at the AA and AAA levels. The players know it’s how they get promoted at the upper levels. That makes it a decent indication.

    #160120
    jj-cf-stl
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    Many of our offseason concerns are becoming clearer as to whether they should still warrant concern, or we’re simply good to go.

    Leadoff: With Wongs free agency and ownerships desire to reduce payroll, Tommy Edman has become the only leadoff man we’ve used in our first 29 games. He’s slashing .294 / .354 / .420 / .774 and STL ranks 11th as “batting first”, among all teams. All mlb leadoff batters have produced a .262 / .340 / .421 / .761 line.

    Of all infields STL ranks 11th, and as outfields ranks 10th, offensively by BR OPS+.
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    Another concern was the youth in the outfield. I’d like to point out that O’Neill has 1 BB and 23 K’s. How concerned are you with that? His start to the season is that of a two true outcomes batter.

    I’m also noticing Tyler is giving the umpires fewer chances to ring him up on strike 3. His pitches per PA are at a noticeable career low, and % of pitches swung at are at a career high. Hard to argue with his results so far, a 128 ops+ and a .269 ISO, but are these results sustainable?
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    AB/RBI:
    4.6 Yadi
    4.7 Carp
    5.4 Arenado
    6.1 O’Neill
    7.2 Carlson
    7.3 Goldy
    7.5 DeJong

    #160156
    blingboy
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    I am more hopeful as to O’Neill than Williams just because of the difference in their swing. It is really noticeable when they hit back to back. I much prefer O’Neill’s compact hack over Williams big swoosh.

    It seems inevitable that O’Neill will see fewer pitches in the strike zone pretty soon. Time will tell how he responds to that.

    #160157
    stlcard25
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    I think O’Neill has the better shot to stick as well. His minors track record was better and he’s got the speed to fall back on as a very good defender and base runner. I felt Williams was probably an AAAA guy/5th OFer coming into the year and that’s probably not far off. I’m hoping for him to make it as we could use the LH pop and he seems a likeable kid to root for.

    #160347
    jj-cf-stl
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    Last 7 days (7 games) to 5-5-21′, sorted by PA’s descending:

    32 PA’s Edman, .923 ops, .406 obp
    29 Arenado, 1.128 ops, .680 slg%, 9 rbi
    28 O’Neill, .308 / .357 / .500 / .857, 1/7 BB/K
    27 Carlson, .502 ops, 1/9 BB/K
    25 Goldy, .304 / .360 / .478 / .838
    24 DeJong, .900 ops, 2 K’s, 2 HR’s, 5 RBI
    22 Bader, .918 ops, 3 K’s, 2 HR, 5 RBI
    13 Carpenter, 1.203 ops, 1 K, 2 HR, 6 RBI
    9 Williams, 1.159 ops, 1 HR, 3 K, 3 RBI
    4 Sosa, .833 ops
    3 Sanchez, 1.000 ops

    #160528
    jj-cf-stl
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    mlb rank through 5-7-2021

    swung at first pitch: 3rd, .792 ops, 124 ops+
    took first pitch: 25th, .665 ops, 90 ops+

    full count: 1st, .917 ops, 148 ops+

    RISP: 6th, .831 ops, 123 ops+
    men on: 3rd, .814 ops, 120 ops+

    batting first: 11th, .774 ops, 102 ops+
    batting 1-2, non-P: 22nd, .710 ops, 90 ops+
    batting 3-6, non-P: 14th, .751 ops, 103 ops+
    batting 7-9, non-P: 10th, .678 ops, 111 ops+

    as infield: 11th, .725 ops, 104 ops+
    as outfield 11th, .721 ops, 103 ops+

    BR

    #162392
    Cardinals27
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    After looking at Lars Nootbaars start with Memphis, I am thinking he should be given a try. Not sure what corresponding move would be made to add him. Perhaps moving Mikolas to 60 day DL, or DFA Moroff or Hurst?

    #162398
    blingboy
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    Playing in an AL park is a big disadvantage when you don’t have a bench bat to use as a DH.

    #162412
    14NyquisT
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    Bling…. that’s so true. AL has professional DHers…. NL has bench guys that are replacements to fill positional needs. They are a step above the Ps that they PH for…. at least that is what we have here.

    #162998
    jj-cf-stl
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    May:

    OPS+
    179 O’Neill (73 PA)
    162 Arenado (116 PA)
    130 Sosa (59 PA)
    123 Goldschmidt (115 PA)
    111 Edman (126 PA)
    102 Bader (79 PA)

    98 DeJong (43 PA)
    98 Molina (75 PA)
    98 Carlson (111 PA)
    78 Carpenter (44 PA)
    50 Williams (56 PA)

    16 Thomas (33 PA)
    10 Knizner (36 PA)

    #163044
    14NyquisT
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    A good piece by VEB regarding Wong’s replacement.

    https://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2021/6/1/22463066/tommy-edman-is-the-kolten-wong-replacement-the-cardinals-were-looking-for

    Edman is still underrated and unappreciated by some here (you know who). I think one commenter is waiting for Edman to prove himself because his play so far may be a short-term thing.

    #163620
    jj-cf-stl
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    Through 62 games (6-10-2021)

    Vs RHP’s stl ranks 21st, 92 ops+
    Vs LHP’s stl ranks 4th, 118 ops+

    #163623
    blingboy
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    Any guesses what lineup we will see Friday with DeJong back?

    #163625
    jj-cf-stl
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    Once DeJong returns to starting, I like Sosa in RF, Edman at 2B.

    Unlike the majority of the forum, I don’t mind Carp starting vs RHP’s, but he’s a dead end long term.

    I’d rather Sosa get starts at mlb. Auditions is the theme this season and that should include Sosa.

    #163626
    jj-cf-stl
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    Vs RHP’s (6-10-2021)

    ops+
    186 O’Neill
    130 Sosa
    127 Arenado
    113 Goldschmidt
    107 Molina
    Top 5 vs righties are all rhb’s.

    99 Carlson
    96 DeJong
    87 Carpenter
    85 Bader
    83 Edman
    53 Williams

    Edman, much like Bader, best vs LHP’s.

    #163650
    gscottar
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    Any guesses what lineup we will see Friday with DeJong back?

    It really comes down to Sosa or Carp. I would go with Sosa but you never know about Shildt.

    #163652
    Cardinals27
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    I would think Sosa at second, and Edman in right field might be Schildts lineup.

    #163653
    jj-cf-stl
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    Makes the most sense 27, but Edman gets the favorite nephew treatment so I expect him at 2B.

    #165222
    jj-cf-stl
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    June OPS+

    120 Arenado
    117 Goldschmidt
    109 O’Neill
    107 Carlson

    84 Carpenter
    57 DeJong
    53 Sosa
    42 Edman
    36 Nootbar
    31 Molina

    #165223
    Cardinals27
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    Those are really sorry numbers. They should be easy to beat. I sure hope in July the regulars turn the page. Still think Dejong needs regular time off with Sosa, Edman, or Rondon playing more.

    #165247
    gscottar
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    Glad to see Goldy isn’t all that washed up after all.

    #165272
    jj-cf-stl
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    81 games ops+

    145 O’Neill in 233 PA
    133 Arenado, 328
    117 Carlson, 328
    108 Goldschmidt, 332
    103 Molina, 231
    101 Bader, 83 PA

    92 Sosa, 147
    89 Edman, 347
    77 DeJong, 203
    73 Carpenter, 149

    53 Williams, 137
    51 Knizner, 93
    50 Rondon, 33

    30 Nootbaar, 28
    15 Thomas, 58

    #165458
    jj-cf-stl
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    MLB rank by position (BRwar) thru 7-2-21′

    LF 1st
    3B 3rd
    OF 7th
    1B 11th
    CF 12th
    C 13th
    SS 14th
    2B 18th
    RF 18th
    PH 30th

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