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May 4, 2020 at 12:26 pm #128005
That incentive has always been there for the top players.
May 4, 2020 at 2:34 pm #128011I would love to see high schoolers excluded from the draft, or find some other way to stop paying teenagers millions upon millions of dollars. It’s just not right. In the end the fans are paying for this craziness. The same goes for college age prospects. The amount of money thrown around in the draft is too, too much.
May 4, 2020 at 3:21 pm #128012Another angle, let’s say teams cut their draft bonus spending in half. They would save about $4 or $5 million per team per year. Not much in the overall scheme of things.
May 4, 2020 at 3:29 pm #128013UncleDenny
ParticipantI question whether there are many high school draftees ready for full season class A right away or in most cases even the next spring. With the elimination of short season leagues it will be a problem. Most kids will need to be developed by colleges.
May 4, 2020 at 4:06 pm #128014As it should be.
May 4, 2020 at 4:45 pm #128016As it should be.
May 4, 2020 at 5:24 pm #128018The Gulf Coast League is not going away. The gap between the GCL and Midwest League has to shrink. There will be no choice.
My prediction (and you can mark this down and call me on it later) is that the Cardinals will add a second GCL team by 2022.
May 4, 2020 at 10:59 pm #128023UncleDenny
ParticipantOh I wouldn’t be surprised if they added the second one next year. You look at all those that need to come to U.S. from DSL plus the new draftees plus all the Johnson City club.
May 5, 2020 at 7:26 am #128025bccran
ParticipantIf the Cards added a second team in the GCL, would they be at an equal level? Or would they have an A team and a B team?
May 5, 2020 at 8:48 am #128039My crystal ball is foggy this morning… About 10 MLB organizations already have two teams at the level, either in Florida or Arizona. If one cared enough, one could study their records and rosters. What the Cardinals seem to do in the DSL is balance the two teams out so one is not super good and the other is far less competitive. Especially at these lower levels, the goal is player development, not winning championships. But they also do not want to foster a culture of losing.
May 5, 2020 at 9:41 am #128046bccran
ParticipantI thought it might give them promotional opportunity for players who aren’t ready to jump up to Peoria. Something for “B team” players to shoot for. The same thing might not be as important for DSL players, who are just trying to get to the U.S/mainland.
May 5, 2020 at 9:42 am #128047If the Cardinals add another GSL team that means they have to pay those players which means that the payroll savings of cutting SC and JC would be rather minimal.
May 5, 2020 at 10:49 am #128056That assumes payroll savings (which would be half instead of 100% in this scenario) is the only motivation for contraction and that every organization wants to cut equally. Neither is likely the case. Coincidentally, this week, I am planning to run an article for members that lays out the various expenses in running a minor league team and who pays what.
May 5, 2020 at 4:44 pm #128062I don’t hold that assumption that payroll savings is the only motivation for contraction. I think it’s about bringing more order to the minor leagues. With four teams for each major league team, it’s easier to keep track of what’s going on for each player for each team. I also think that with this restructuring of MiLB, there will be more attention to how players are cared for including housing and nutrition and salary. I think the primary motivation is bringing order with the equally significant motivation of getting better care for players before a lawsuit forces the MLB organizations to do it.
As far as adding a second Gulf Coast League team goes, it makes sense to me, also. But if that happens it will be for the youngest and newest players to get adjusted to the rigors of professional baseball, and probably, to just grow up a little more. I suspect there will be lots of practice, lots of teaching, and lots of intramural games.
I don’t believe that all MLB owners are greedy, money grubbing billionaires who would do anything to put a few extra dollars in their pockets. I especially don’t believe WDW is that way.
I’m very much looking forward to your coming article which I hope will tell how much responsibility and control the major league clubs have over some of these distant minor league teams that are under the administration of local ownership.
May 6, 2020 at 10:00 am #128111Except that it really wouldn’t be four milb teams for each organization. The Cardinals would have at least seven and possibly eight if they add a second GSL team. I am not sure why GSL and DSL teams aren’t counted. I mean I know there are differences in travel, facility expenses, length of schedule, ownership, etc…. but the GSL and DSL teams are still teams and have expenses.
May 6, 2020 at 10:27 am #128114The Professional Baseball Agreement covers those teams not owned by teams in their own complexes. Those are the 160/120 that require negotiations and formal agreements. They are the teams for which admission is charged for their games and are located across the US.
The article posted on the home page today delineates between the 160/120 and the complex/academy teams. The latter can come and go with no notification and no restrictions. There are significant differences, but they are all part of the total.
May 7, 2020 at 11:04 am #128172Not done yet, but this is what I had been expecting, but there are a lot of good financial details in the article…
Nothing is finalized yet.
But a decision on the draft date/length is coming.
And many around the game are bracing for two things:
1) A June 10th draft
2) A five-round draft
Details, via @jjcoop36: https://t.co/P317Rybr1w
— Baseball America (@BaseballAmerica) May 7, 2020
May 7, 2020 at 11:47 am #128182I hope it is 5 Rds on June 10. Good for the college game.
May 8, 2020 at 5:12 pm #128239There remains a significant divide within the team side on the draft. A majority of front offices were pushing for a longer draft, recognizing the value reaped even in later rounds can be immense. Pushback to keep the draft as short as possible from some owners was strong.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) May 8, 2020
May 8, 2020 at 5:20 pm #128240Cutting the draft from 10 to 5 rounds could save each MLB team $1 million on the average, but most of that money would have been deferred to 2021 anyway. Seems pennywise but pound-foolish move.
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) May 8, 2020
May 8, 2020 at 5:34 pm #128242I like it…it will make College baseball better. Now if the NCAA will revise their scholarship amounts and roster limits for 1 year it will make coach’s jobs a whole lot easier.
May 8, 2020 at 5:37 pm #128243for some perspective, last season there were 13 MLB All-Stars that were drafted after the 5th round. pic.twitter.com/HER8szsf7C
— Justin Rocke (@JustinRocke) May 8, 2020
May 8, 2020 at 5:39 pm #128244GC, my guess is that the biggest gains will be at the Juco level as they get the high schoolers who want to wait a year, until the draft is likely to settle at 20 rounds. NCAA schools are strangling themselves with the low scholarship limits. They may churn some guys out to improve their hand, and if so, where will those players go? To Jucos, perhaps.
May 8, 2020 at 5:47 pm #128245
stlcard25ParticipantI like it…it will make College baseball better. Now if the NCAA will revise their scholarship amounts and roster limits for 1 year it will make coach’s jobs a whole lot easier.
Universities, like most every business now, are under immense financial stress. Most baseball programs don’t make money as it is, so I can’t see this happening anytime soon. If football doesn’t happen this fall, you might see a number of baseball programs fold.
May 8, 2020 at 5:55 pm #128246Easy to see how it helps D1 schools. If the Draft was 10 Rds or more the number of good players available next year would be less. I am a season ticket holder at South Carolina…we have 20 signees and potentially 32 returners for the 35 roster spots. The NCAA needs to help the Coach’s out for one year. There obviously will be attrition.
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