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June 3, 2020 at 2:07 pm #129704bccranParticipant
BW – I base my assessment on the chances of a player becoming a St. Louis Cardinal some day. The statistics say that a larger percentage of college players make it than high school players and they make it to the big leagues faster. That’s all. I have no problem with taking a higher risk high schooler in the first round if we have another 1st round pick where we can take a good college player. But this year we don’t have another pick until toward the end of the second round. Therefore I’d go with a more proven college player at #21.
There’s a lot more to go on. Especially for this draft.June 3, 2020 at 5:25 pm #129707did you see my post about Chris McMahon?
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good stuff with lots of movement per youtubes I sawJune 3, 2020 at 5:31 pm #129708also I guess BA has new mock out today with us taking Nick Loftin.
at least they didn’t say Foscue for the third straight BA mockJune 3, 2020 at 5:39 pm #129709This what MLB.com has to say about McMahon…McMahon was a solid high school product outside of Philadelphia who was No. 100 on MLB Pipeline’s Draft Top 200 as the 2017 Draft rolled around. The former three-sport standout (soccer and basketball) slid in the Draft, going in the 33rd round, and opted to go to Miami instead. A knee injury cut short his freshman year, and his sophomore year was up-and-down as the Hurricanes’ Saturday starter. But he was one of the best performers for USA Baseball’s Collegiate National Team, something that carried over to the start of his junior season.
The right-hander has more than enough stuff to succeed as a starter at the next level. His fastball is up to 95-96 mph consistently, with late action on it down in the zone, and he was up to 98 mph this fall. He knows how to spin a breaking ball, but it gets caught in between being a curve and slider, looking more like the former. He has a very good feel for his changeup that can miss bats and get ground-ball outs.
When he’s on, McMahon combines athleticism, stuff, feel for pitching and command to make him a complete package. With an arm action that can be a little deep, he can get flat and gets hit more than he should. He got out front more consistently and didn’t leave pitches up for Team USA and early this spring, solidifying his spot as one of the more solid college arms in the class.
June 3, 2020 at 5:54 pm #129711David Martin
Stats don’t really excite me on McMahon. Based on Keith law draft I’d rather get Jarvis, Kelley, or Wilcox.
This comment was interesting
The Cards were the one team I had heard linked to high schooler Dylan Crews, who removed himself from the draft this week, but beyond that it’s been more college pitchers and a few position players (e.g., Jordan Westburg).Westburg had a big 2019 Cape Cod season so it would be a typical cardinals pick.
June 3, 2020 at 6:01 pm #129713bccranParticipantWestburg is Foscue’s middle infield partner.
June 3, 2020 at 6:15 pm #129714bccranParticipantNo one seems to be mentioning Ian Bedell from Mizzou. He was excellent in the 2019 Cape Cod league. Pick him up in the 3rd or 4th?
June 3, 2020 at 6:18 pm #129715I prefer Westburg over Foscue.
June 3, 2020 at 6:30 pm #129716It feels like this will be a cape cod league player pick.
June 3, 2020 at 6:37 pm #129717It will be somebody who “falls” to the Cardinals
June 3, 2020 at 6:44 pm #129718someone “falling” to the Cards would be great, as long as the fall is not because of injury
June 3, 2020 at 7:13 pm #129719UncleDennyParticipantGoing to be hard to draft a high school kid that’s ready for Peoria. There’s still GCL but safer bet to go polished college guy.
June 3, 2020 at 7:23 pm #129720If it is a Cape Cod pick then it will likely be Carmen Mlodzinski who was the best pitcher in last year’s Cape and is a 21 yr old College pitcher.
June 3, 2020 at 7:28 pm #129721a few teams have only four picks.
at least we have seven.
seven VERY IMPORTANT decisionsJune 3, 2020 at 7:50 pm #129723Yes…the Cardinals with 7 picks in 5 rds are positioned quiet well to add some good talent.
June 3, 2020 at 8:25 pm #129724bccranParticipantHere’s a list of the top 20 players in the 2019 Cape Cod League, as rated by one source –
1.) Nick Gonzales, 2B, New Mexico State
2.) Austin Wells, C, Arizona
3.) Parker Chavers, OF, Coastal Carolina
4.) Hayden Cantrelle, 2B/SS, Louisiana-Lafayette
5.) Daniel Cabrera, OF, LSU
6.) Zach DeLoach, OF, Texas A&M
7.) Trei Cruz, SS/3B, Rice
8.) Jud Fabian, OF, Florida
9.) Jordan Westburg, SS, Mississippi State
10.) Carmen Mlodzinski, RHP, South Carolina
11.) Alika Williams, SS, Arizona State
12.) Ian Bedell, RHP, Missouri
13.) Noah Campbell, OF, South Carolina
14.) Matt McLain, 2B/3B/OF, UCLA
15.) Zavier Warren, 3B, Central Michigan
16.) Gage Workman, SS/3B, Arizona State
17.) Zach McCambley, RHP, Coastal Carolina
18.) Joe Boyle, RHP, Notre Dame
19.) Logan Allen, LHP, Florida International
20.) Trenton Denholm, RHP, Cal-IrvineJune 3, 2020 at 8:41 pm #129725Mloszinski is the first pitcher on the list and struck out 40 compared to 4 walks with a 2.14 ERA.
June 3, 2020 at 8:58 pm #129726bccranParticipantGameCard – Bedell pitched 30 2/3 innings. Struck out 36 and walked 3. ERA of 0.58.
June 3, 2020 at 9:14 pm #129727But Carmen will go in the 1st rd and Bedell probably not until the 3rd or 4th Rd.
June 3, 2020 at 10:17 pm #129728Based on what we’ve seen in the past regarding the Cardinals draft strategy under Flores (Best available, particularly if he’s an unexplained fall down the draft board; 1 mid round high school over-sign; couple of cost saving college arms; wood bat league success, particularly from hitters). Here are my favorites at each position with rankings (MLB/BA/FG). After my first draft I realized there was a very high risk – high reward so I’ve added what I think are lower risk picks where needed. Obviously risk is completely my subjective opinion.
1-21 Robert Hassell OF/HS (16/16/15) – Most well rounded HS player not named Veen.
Lower Risk: Bobby Miller LHP/Louisville (26/28/28) – Big lefty with great stuff and ceiling
2-54 Clayton Beeter RHP/TXTech (51/58/19) – Injury only thing that would drive him down. Stuff is there.
Lower Risk: C.J. Van Eyk (39/46/31) – Solid three pitch mix with great CB and good track record in the ACC
2-63 Zach DeLoach OF/TXAM (80/87/64) – good performer in wood bat leagues who’s struggled in the SEC
Lower Risk: Parker Chavers OF/Coastal Carolina (108/167/54) – Good performer in wood bat leagues, injury history
2-70 Landon Knack RHP/ETSU (113/113/116) – Late bloomer who could be a great mix of performance, upside and savings for a college senior. Leading the nation in strike outs prior to shutdown.
Lower Risk: Ian Bedell RHP/Mizzou (89/105/100) – Safe pick with good stats in SEC and Cape Cod
3-94 Drew Bowser 3B/HS (64/63/57) – HS SS who will likely move to 3rd. Big frame, good power, great program (Harvard Westlake)
Lower Risk: Anthony Servideo SS/OleMiss (111/91/59) Fast; good defender with an avg hit tool and some gap power.
4-121 Kevin Abel RHP/ORSt (153/124/121) Injury history brings him down but stuff is 1st or 2nd round
Lower Risk: Hayden Cantrell SS/LA Lafeyette (119/138/88) Switch hitter with solid defense likely to stay at short
5-151 Luke Little LHP/San Jacinto JC (167/121/173) who doesn’t love lefty velocity
Lower Risk: Hugh Fisher LHP/Vanderbilt (154/173/97) “Only 60 grade FB) but much better repertoireAnybody else got favorites for each pick?
June 4, 2020 at 8:17 am #129730Cole Wilcox cape cod league stats
4 innings 1 hit 0 ER 2 BB 6 Ks
4 innings 6 hit 6 ER 4 BB 4 Ks
Hard to get good read on him based on that.June 4, 2020 at 8:44 am #129731UncleDennyParticipantThink LH hitting outfielders like Daniel Cabrera, Zack DeLoach, etc
June 4, 2020 at 9:27 am #129732bccranParticipantTwo good choices, Uncle Denny.
Cabrera is rated #38, so he’s a reach at #21, and probably won’t be there at #54. DeLoach is ranked #80. He’s a real possibility.June 4, 2020 at 9:33 am #129733bccranParticipantBoth Cabrera and LaRoach hit extremely well in the Cape Cod League. As one poster said, the Cards like that wooden bat evaluation.
June 4, 2020 at 9:43 am #129734yes Cards are wont to highly value guys who hit well in Cape Cod.
still thinking college pitcher at 21 an hitter at 54 -
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