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December 13, 2018 at 8:37 am #77326
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ParticipantCC… If Torres develops some versatility the organization tends to move primo prospects to a position that gives him the best chance to advance through the system.
Otherwise, I like to see tall corner infielders, ala Schmidt and Goldschmidt.
December 14, 2018 at 9:59 am #77499At no. 18 in The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards 2019 top 50 prospect countdown is Tommy Edman, a versatile, switch-hitting infielder who should build upon a good 2018 to work his way closer to the majors. ($) https://t.co/b8Ne44vEdX pic.twitter.com/v3zuKitL2o
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 14, 2018
December 14, 2018 at 11:47 am #77522bccran
ParticipantJMHO, but I think Urias will end up being a lot better than #33.
December 14, 2018 at 12:18 pm #77528That certainly could be. I hope you read the article, as that was definitely mentioned. But at the time we voted, it was not certain that Urias was going to be protected from Rule 5.
December 15, 2018 at 7:16 am #77603Ranked no. 17 in The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards 2019 top 50 prospect countdown, big left-hander Evan Kruczynski perhaps made the biggest step forward of any pitcher in the system in 2018. ($) https://t.co/7o7zjiFL3v pic.twitter.com/d2otQfOgjT
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 15, 2018
December 16, 2018 at 7:57 am #77709Checking in at no. 16 in The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards 2019 top 50 prospect countdown is Cuban outfielder Adolis Garcia, who parlayed a huge July into his Major League debut. ($) https://t.co/WgYMX77XiV pic.twitter.com/vjhcY8Gli3
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 16, 2018
December 16, 2018 at 11:29 am #77760NJ315
ParticipantDelvin Perez numbers at the Puerto Rican Winter League are horrible. 14 games played. 3 errors and the best for last .178 OPS
December 16, 2018 at 11:35 am #77761It is also fair to note that winter ball competition is quite a bit up from short-season. Yet, it does provide another data point to add to the ongoing concern over when/if his bat is ever going to come around.
December 16, 2018 at 11:44 am #77766Maybe move Perez to center field? It worked great for Mercado. But it sounds like a lack of strength coupled with a poor approach at the plate. I thought reports were very good on his fielding though in short season ball.
Also, has Cabrera continued to pitch well out of the bullpen in winter league?
December 16, 2018 at 11:55 am #77777Perez is a pretty good SS. His problem is hitting. Oquendo worked with him extensively for two years. I am no longer as optimistic as I once was.
Yes, Cabrera continues to pitch well in relief. Encouraging, but it is not MLB.
December 16, 2018 at 12:08 pm #77782The Cardinals have put Perez on a nutrition diet to gain weight (and muscle strength) for the past 2 seasons and its apparent the plans have failed.
December 16, 2018 at 12:10 pm #77783Well, on the other side of the coin, Perez just turned 20 a few weeks ago.
December 17, 2018 at 8:04 am #77816It was a bad year for #stlcards named Luke. Dykstra released. Weaver and Voit traded. But 2018 draftee, slugger Luken Baker remains and is on the rise, coming in at no. 15 on The Cardinal Nation's Top Prospect List for 2019. (free) https://t.co/BEII4ACY7J pic.twitter.com/p3KLkkVmsL
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 17, 2018
December 18, 2018 at 11:21 am #77896December 19, 2018 at 5:02 am #77950December 20, 2018 at 12:57 pm #78032At no. 12 in The Cardinal Nation’s #stlcards top 50 prospect countdown for 2019 is Cuban outfielder Randy Arozarena, who performed well at Double-A and finished very strongly for Triple-A Memphis in the playoffs. ($) https://t.co/BNVSF0Kvo7 pic.twitter.com/dyiDpm7kzL
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 20, 2018
December 21, 2018 at 9:58 am #78120I am breaking ranks to disagree with my fellow voters. Genesis Cabrera should be a top 10 prospect in the #stlcards system and should remain a starter. We explain our views on The Cardinal Nation’s no. 11 for 2019. ($) https://t.co/UFKBZzsF3A pic.twitter.com/SYvVP0ufpE
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) December 21, 2018
December 21, 2018 at 10:30 am #78128
stlcard25ParticipantLooking at those ranked ahead of Cabrera on the member list, I would only find a couple that you might quibble with and put Genesis ahead of. Ponce at #10 has the down side of age, although he has proven capable at the MLB level already and was the Memphis pitcher of the year on the site. So I can see that. Griffin Roberts is the other, but I can see the allure of the shiny new toy. At this point I’d probably rank Cabrera ahead due to the drug suspension of Roberts, but I’m not sure it’s a slam dunk unless you think Roberts is definitely headed for relief.
December 21, 2018 at 10:39 am #78132Both Thomas and Carlson made it into the Top 10 for TCN. There was a time when the organization had to bring Ron Gant in to play left field because they didn’t have an outfield prospect with enough upside that was anywhere close to being ready. TLR once called Gant out for ‘looking good striking out’.
December 21, 2018 at 10:59 am #78138I think Cabrera is a lot better than some give him credit for. Time will tell.
December 21, 2018 at 11:21 am #78142
stlcard25ParticipantI’m hoping that you are right, Brian. Ending up as a mid rotation lefty or dominant reliever would be a great revelation for Genesis.
December 21, 2018 at 11:48 am #78160Reyes, Hudson, Cabrerra, Gomber, Ponce De Leon, Gant, Woodford, and Evan K all seem like they are priority AAA starters. Injuries may happen, but one or two of the free agents could surprise also.
I think it could be time to simply take the best arms North and let development be damned. Is it even possible that they would put Reyes and Hudson in the pen and let Hicks start at Memphis? It seems to me that boat had already sailed.
December 21, 2018 at 11:48 am #7816114NyquisT
ParticipantThe August TCN list had Cabrera #14. Thomas#19, Carlson #16, Helsley #7. Two of the three have fallen out of your top-10. I’m fairly certain that my guess is accurate.
December 21, 2018 at 12:10 pm #78165Incorrect guess, Ny. If we take Kelly out, since he was traded since, all four of the names you cite are in my personal top 10 used for the combined site rankings for 2019.
December 21, 2018 at 12:32 pm #7817014NyquisT
ParticipantHmmmm…. great Carsoni given wrong envelope. Him forget Gomber no more prospect. Baker and Roberts already picked. Plenty room for everybody now. Mea culpa.
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