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May 28, 2024 at 9:27 am #254019
jj-cf-stlParticipantHow do we fix this?
2024 OPS vs LHP’s (sorted by PA’s)
67 Donovan .686
59 Goldschmidt .653
59 Winn .821
56 Gorman .633
47 Noot .507
45 Arenado .450
43 Siani .179
38 Herrera .623
29 Contreras 1.157
24 Carlson .482
23 Walker .422
13 Scott .322
08 Carpenter .833Lefty again tonight.
May 28, 2024 at 9:54 am #254020
jj-cf-stlParticipant2024 OPS vs RHP’s (sorted by PA’s)
172 Arenado .720
162 Goldschmidt .656
158 Donovan .665
120 Gorman .760
111 Burleson .837
110 Winn .767
108 Nootbaar .861
099 Contreras .890
88 Herrera .711
65 Siani .75852 Scott .261
44 Walker .522
31 Carpenter .559
28 Crawford .334
12 Carlson .083
11 Pages .182May 28, 2024 at 10:00 am #254022JJ-We did it my way yesterday. No bueno. Let’s put Donnie back in and sit Siani. Noot na. So Burly Donnie Carlson in the of. Both nolans Goldy and Winn infield. Herrera catch. Carp dh. Write their #’s on a piece of paper and pull em out of a hat for batting order.
May 28, 2024 at 10:01 am #254023
jj-cf-stlParticipant2024
One active player with an ops over .700 vs LHP’s.
Seven active players with an ops over .700 vs RHP’s.Thru 5-27-2024
May 28, 2024 at 10:09 am #254025
jj-cf-stlParticipantWell, there are more righty arms than lefty, so at least it’s not flipped, where we struggle vs righties. But yah, vs lefties after losing Contreras, has become a supermassive black hole.
May 28, 2024 at 10:32 am #254029
jj-cf-stlParticipantTwo active vs lefties over .700 if you count Carps limited PA’s.
May 28, 2024 at 10:34 am #254030Sitting Siani may be tempting but how many games has he saved our bacon with his glove? I know for a fact that we lose the Sunday game against the Cubs without him and there have probably been others.
May 28, 2024 at 10:59 am #254033That’s the dilemma gscott. I don’t want to sit him either. But against lefties it’s like not having a dh.
May 28, 2024 at 12:16 pm #254035Carlson isn’t a very compelling replacement.
May 28, 2024 at 12:34 pm #254042Noot and Carlson aren’t much better with the bat than Siani and they are light years behind him with the glove in CF. I honestly didn’t realize how elite of an CF he was when he signed him. Kudos to the front office staffer who pulled that rabbit out of the hat.
May 28, 2024 at 12:53 pm #254044
jj-cf-stlParticipantArenado is a career .941 vs lefties.
He had just completed back-to-back season at nearly his career avg, and then dropped a .662 in there last season. Now he’s sitting at .450?
This season and last, Nolan has accumulated 190 PA’s vs lefties. That’s not a terribly small sample at one-third of a season, and the trend resembles cliff diving.
May 28, 2024 at 1:07 pm #254047
jj-cf-stlParticipant“Noot and Carlson aren’t much better with the bat than Siani….”
O my
May 28, 2024 at 1:14 pm #254048Noot is hitting .182 vs lefties this year.
Carlson is hitting .191 vs lefties this year.
Siani is hitting .054 vs lefties this year.All three stink but I will take the elite glove everyday.
May 28, 2024 at 1:17 pm #254049
jj-cf-stlParticipantI think you have a new flame GS 🙃
May 28, 2024 at 1:18 pm #254050Give me pitching and defense for $1000 Alex.
May 28, 2024 at 1:21 pm #254051
jj-cf-stlParticipantWe won’t be comparing the three statistically. I don’t like where it goes for you.
May 28, 2024 at 1:45 pm #254052Well I thought the topic was who to play against LH’s. As I pointed out above all three stink against lefties but I will take the guy ranked 3rd in MLB in OAA.
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/leaderboard/outs_above_average
May 28, 2024 at 2:38 pm #254059
jj-cf-stlParticipantIt can be about vs L, although I listed both handedness sides.
Your noot, carlson, Siani comparison made no mention of handedness, just “better batters”. Of course I have to call that out. It’s not even close.
May 28, 2024 at 2:53 pm #254060Correct. My original statement was referring to hitting vs LH pitching.
Eventually Siani will probably fall back into his intended role of 4th or 5th OF but as of today we do not have three better OF’s on the active roster in my opinion, and most of that is because of his elite level defense.
May 28, 2024 at 3:59 pm #254064
jj-cf-stlParticipantI think Siani is doing great. His role was to be replacement level depth at AAA. He is exceeding that.
My concern today is the lineup as a whole. I tried to show our ineffectiveness vs LHP’s.
The only “fix” I see would be Carlson vs lefty starters for Siani. I would expect improvement over Sinai’s bat (vs L), but its just a drop in the bucket. Carlson doesn’t get three PA’s vs the SP’r unless he goes 27 batters deep. It’s a minimal expected upgrade.
If our two bronze busts don’t remember how to hit lefties, the situation won’t change.
May 30, 2024 at 2:42 pm #254381Those darn metrics helping the Brewers pitching factory churn out pitcher after pitcher. What Gasser is describing is being a pitcher not a thrower with the metrics guiding him.
As for anything that might have changed philosophically when he went from the Padres to the Brewers, his answer came with a caveat.
“With a new organization there are definitely new ideas and ways to approach pitching,” Gasser said. “With San Diego, I felt it was more so first-pitch strikes and strikes in 1-1 counts. That’s still important here, but as I went to the higher levels they placed more emphasis on knowing which pitches are the right pitches to throw at the right time. Obviously, I was at the lower levels with San Diego, and I imagine they have more advanced stuff at the higher levels. But the Brewers pride themselves on their ability to know what’s right based on metrics and data. I’m very trusting in what they’ve told me.”
Credit to Fangraphs for the info although I am unsure if they are the source of the interview and comment.
Robert Gasser Is Making the Josh Hader Trade Look Better for the Brewers
May 30, 2024 at 3:16 pm #254385Since the dawn of mankind the right pitch to throw at the right time is the pitch that the pitcher feels the most confident throwing…And that hasn’t changed.
June 9, 2024 at 9:44 pm #255755I know most of us here also read stories on VEB, but if you missed this podcast Q&A with Mozeliak, it’s worth your time.
He discussed a lot of things that we discuss here. Including seeming pressure to get this year’s draft right, Chain Bloom’s role, possible trade deadline acquisition types, etc.
June 10, 2024 at 9:19 am #255768June 13, 2024 at 9:50 am #256103Some things have gone right this season but a lot haven’t. I feel like it boils down to 4 weaknesses the Cardinals had coming into the season. 3 have become a problem. The fourth really hasn’t – at least not yet.
1. Our starting pitchers are old and age related injuries are likely. This really hasn’t been an issue, but there’s a lot of time left.
2. Willson Contreras is a great player, but what happens if he goes down? The Cardinals have some good minor league catching depth. But they aren’t ready to be major leaguers yet. And there was always going to be a giant gap between what Contreras provides and what the next man up can provide. Contreras was the 2nd most key player on the team due to the drop off that would happen with him being out. I talked some about this prior to the season.
3. Tommy Edman is critical to the Cardinals plans both as the starting CF and as the backup SS. This was clearly the case coming into the season. No one else was around who could play the kind of defense in CF who still had a solid bat. And zero players on the team could backup Winn at SS other than Donovan in a pinch. Edman was the key linchpin and needed to stay healthy. He didn’t. That meant clogging up a bench spot with Crawford, playing Scott and Siani as the every day CFers, and in general just lowering both the offensive snd defensive value of the entire team.
4. The Matt Carpenter signing. This one makes the Crawford signing that much more painful because it now uses up 2 bench spots for players that are barely usable. They limit lineup flexibility, limit the team’s ability to add a valuable player to the bench or even to a 40-man spot, and are in general just not providing any production.
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