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  • #249235
    1toughdominican
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    Anyone have any idea what they’re paying the current Redbird manager?

    #249236
    PugsleyAddams
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    Wayyy too much, TD.

    I’d guess about 2.5MM per annum.

    #249237
    1toughdominican
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    I couldn’t find it anywhere. Must be a closely guarded state secret.

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    Brian Walton
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    #249333
    Steve60
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    He should be shown this quote everyday! People should ask him about it every day! He is a major part of this problem! Change needs to come from the real top down for us to return to the place where this quote is actually true again!

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    ZTR
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    First half of 2015. Last time Cards were really good.

    #249337
    LACardFan
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    It would be funny to post that quote on a digital sign inside of Busch Stadium…

    #249367
    14NyquisT
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    DeWitt can’t be feeling too proud of himself when in baseball circles but inside he is probably proud that his financials are sound. BTW how’s that Baseball Village thing doing…. have they put up a steel fence around it yet to quell some of the crime in that area.

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    Brian Walton
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    #249387
    bicyclemike
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    Wow, and Mo was upset about being booed on opening day. These guys knew they had work to do this last off season and did not make a “game changing” transaction. Some band-aid type moves, but nothing that made you think “ this will make us a good 10 games better.”

    #249451
    Brian Walton
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    Overhyping prospects is a contributor to the problems, IMO.

    Here is a take from Ben Hochman of the P-D.

    Hochman: Is Cardinals’ Jordan Walker on path to become the next Dylan Carlson?

    Man, if you had asked me in 2020 where Dylan Carlson would be as a player by 2024, I would’ve said: multitime All-Star. Which leads us to Jordan Walker.

    https://www.stltoday.com/sports/column/benjamin-hochman/hochman-is-cardinals-jordan-walker-on-path-to-become-the-next-dylan-carlson/article_0fa8b450-0246-11ef-a941-f748828e1b46.html

    For the record, in 2020, you can read what I wrote about Carlson when he was our no. 1 prospect. The comp I used was Nick Markakis, who had a long career with one All-Star Game and a career OPS+ of 109. To date, Carlson’s is 99.

    https://thecardinalnation.com/tcn-2020-st-louis-cardinals-prospect-1-dylan-carlson/

    #249475
    mudville
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    This roster has been underperforming. No doubt about that. But, other than the obvious missing link in CF, this is an impressive lineup, IMO. We have two likely HOF players at the infield corners, and a borderline HOF player behind the plate. Time will tell what the very young Winn, Gorman, and Walker will become. I think the biggest problem for development is an inability to effectively scout, assess, and sign good pitching. This organization has failed in that regard, and I don’t know who to blame other than Mozeliak, ultimately. This might have finally changed for the better with the hiring of Chaim Bloom. I say that because of the development success that the Rays and the Red Sox have had. Also, so far both Nick Robertson and Ryan Fernandez look like they could stick at the major league level. Victor Santos hasn’t shown anything yet, but it’s so early. All three of these pitchers came to the Cardinals by way of Boston, and I’m guessing that Bloom’s input was the driver behind it. And, Bloom might have been a booster for the Kittredge acquisition which seems to have worked out well for the Cardinals. I don’t know what this says about Girsch and Flores. Time will tell.

    #249478
    blingboy
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    By no means is over hyping prospects a folly of the front office alone. They are egged on relentlessly. I cannot begin to count the times I have been run over by a hype bandwagon whilst attempting to inject a sober voice of reason into the discussion. Somebody has a good year in the Texas League and poof! they are a top prospect chiseled into the ML roster. But the FO is paid to get it right.

    #249479
    CardsFanInChiTown
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    Mud, let’s hope the #7 pick isn’t a bust!

    Agree with all of your observations, I do think Santos was simply a “fill the roster” pickup.

    #249496
    gscottar
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    I cannot begin to count the times I have been run over by a hype bandwagon whilst attempting to inject a sober voice of reason into the discussion. Somebody has a good year in the Texas League and poof! they are a top prospect chiseled into the ML roster

    You mean Burly, Woodford, and Saggesee aren’t headed to Cooperstown?

    #249497
    gscottar
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    Ruh roh….This is the issue that Brian has alluded to. Poor performance leads to reduced fan interest which leads to reduced revenue which leads to budget cuts which can lead to further poor performance. It can be a death spiral if someone doesn’t figure something out.

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    bccran
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    Guess who leads the NL in HR and RBI?

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    jj-cf-stl
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    GS, I heard on the radio that the FO is starting to lower ticket prices. They advertised it as the “radio listeners” appreciation, or something like that.

    So if you’ve every heard a Cardinals radio broadcast, you qualify, I guess 🙂

    #250449
    bicyclemike
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    “Guess who leads the NL in HR and RBI?”

    Ozuna is doing well and despite the personal issues where for awhile the Braves were supposedly trying to get out of his contract, he has been good for them.

    Ozuna might be akin to Rocky Colavito as described in the book “The Curse Of Rocky Colavito.” In the book the author said trading Rocky was arguably the worst deal in Cleveland Indians history, and acquiring him back was the second worst (they gave up Tommie Agee and Tommy John to get The Rock back).

    For us, two of the worst transactions in recent Cardinal history are trading for Marcel Ozuna, and then letting him walk after two years.

    #250451
    1toughdominican
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    Yeah, Ozuna’s early season success may be more astounding than what O’Neill’s done with the Red Sox. Marcell was no joke for the Braves last year either as witnessed by 40 HR’s and 100 RBI’s in ’23.

    #250454
    mudville
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    Ozuna’s defense in the outfield was an embarrassment, IMO. I see that Atlanta lists him as their DH only.

    The Gold Gloves for Marcell Ozuna and Tucker Barnhart seriously undermined my respect for the GG award in general.

    #250456
    Thegreyghost
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    I can see why fans would not have a lot of enthusiasm to pay $ to watch this ridiculous offense they are throwing out there.

    That they did not do 1 thing this off season to address the offense says a lot about talent evaluations being done by the current front office.

    #250458
    AlbertTheMachine
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    Im fairly certain the entire industry predicted a strong offense from Stl this year. I don’t think it has been an evaluation problem, but rather a significant underperformance by many players. That is potentially a coaching issue. We theoretically have all the tools to have a great offense.

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    blingboy
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    I think I the consensus was that the starting 8 or 9 was adequate, but there was no depth behind them on the ML or AAA rosters. So a few injuries and a few underperformers has left the offense in a shambles.

    #250463
    Brian Walton
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    I don’t think letting Ozuna walk was anywhere close to being one of the two worst transactions in recent years. Many were fine with him leaving after both his hitting and defense were in decline. Reminder that there was no DH at the time.

    And, hey, they got Burly for him!

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