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March 3, 2019 at 7:23 pm #83237
UncleDenny
ParticipantRicky Horton pretty complimentary regarding Urias. He knows a thing or two about baseball talent. I’ll have a chance to see for myself in about a week.
March 3, 2019 at 8:51 pm #83238We are going to expect an unabridged scouting report on Mr. Urias, amongst others, sometime later next week, UncleDenny.
March 4, 2019 at 1:28 pm #83256The Cardinal outfield really saved Waino from getting his butt kicked.
March 4, 2019 at 1:53 pm #83257NJ315
ParticipantGomber is getting hit hard and often.
March 4, 2019 at 2:47 pm #83258For somebody who didn’t an NRI, Scott Hurst has gotten himself a lot of playing time in big league camp.
March 4, 2019 at 3:59 pm #83263Cardinals pitching yielded five home runs as St. Louis lost 9-5 at Lakeland to fall to 3-5-2 on the spring. Of the five StL pitchers to take the mound, only Connor Jones got off unscathed. In unpleasant synergy, Wainwright was tagged for three doubles and a homer. Gomber yielded a double and three homers. Ravelo and Wong went deep.
March 4, 2019 at 6:24 pm #83264bccran
ParticipantI’ll be there from 3/14-3/18, Uncle Denny. Meet up on the back fields one morning? Maybe BW can join us.
March 4, 2019 at 6:29 pm #83265Yep, I am now guessing Hurst opens at AA.
March 4, 2019 at 8:39 pm #83266I thought the pitching was a step ahead of the hitting this early in the spring?
March 4, 2019 at 8:57 pm #83267CC if Hurst and Carlson join Meises and Pinder,you have an exciting mix at both AAA and AA.
March 4, 2019 at 9:07 pm #832703-5-2? What kind of a record is that. The regular season can’t get here fast enough!
March 4, 2019 at 10:02 pm #83275If Waino gets hit like this a couple more starts shouldn’t someone else get a chance?
March 5, 2019 at 7:29 am #83280C27, a lot of guys are getting the chance to start this spring. Still three weeks to go to sort it all out.
March 5, 2019 at 7:29 am #83281Corrected: For #stlcards road swing, today's matchup in Clearwater is Flaherty vs. Nola (with Alex Reyes also pitching) and Wednesday is Gant vs. Loasiga of the Yankees at Tampa. Both games will be on https://t.co/ztpoPcoaKB – originating from NBC Philly+ today and YES tomorrow.
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) March 5, 2019
March 5, 2019 at 9:02 am #83285We are still in the early stages of games and S T IMo… pitchers are still “working” on new pitches and seeing how they play in games or are maybe being instructed to focus on certain things. The regulars are playing every other day and even then kids are at best starting every other day and coming in mid game on the next.
I will wait a while before i start to have any major concerns
Having said that, some of the bullpen pieces are a bit troubling seeing as they are supposed to not know when they are coming in so the mid innings guys i would always like to see a bit more from earlier on
Waino has looked pretty good IMO…still seems to have enough to give us 5 but we will see how his endurance goes even in ST
And talk of giving someone else a chance? Come on, Ponce, Hudson, Woodford, Gomber and Gant havent looked much if at all any better as of yet
Excited to see Reyes today
March 5, 2019 at 10:15 am #83290Jager is correct. It is really difficult to gauge ST statistics as a predictor for the regular season. The pitchers are tinkering with new pitches or arm angles, the hitters might be trying a different approach, and they both are facing a different level of competition than they will face once the games start counting.
I’m sure the coaches know what they are looking for or at least I hope they do.
March 5, 2019 at 12:23 pm #83306📺 @MLBNetwork is broadcasting today's game!
Game info: https://t.co/qftr5gz2t3 pic.twitter.com/PsYsT49dQe
— St. Louis Cardinals (@Cardinals) March 5, 2019
March 5, 2019 at 12:40 pm #83309GScott
i tend to agree, however i would say that in that last week or so, i do start to pay attention to the team and the stats a bit more…that is when the team is supposedly gearing up so a week long slump in the last week of ST games for individual performances would bother me as much as it would during the early season
March 5, 2019 at 1:06 pm #83310Next week I’ll be worried about pitch count.
My whole worry with the whole early bullpen-k era is pitchers don’t know how to pitch through adversity. Flaherty had shown he’ll K a bunch of guys but they won’t let him or he feels he needs to go 6. The Phillies announcers say he looks like a young Max though.
Dallas would be a welcome addition IMO.
March 5, 2019 at 1:10 pm #83311In my view, there are two different kinds of players in camp. There are the guys who have clear jobs. Then there are the guys competing for a roster spot or are coming back from injury. Stats for the first group can be ignored for the most part, but for the latter group, every appearance matters.
On individual players, Waino was not very good yesterday, but the game was not on TV, so we could not see him. Even he is trying a new pitch, which tells me he isn’t that confident in what he had. Still plenty of time for someone else to step up if he isn’t the best choice to start.
For example, from among the name players last spring:
Worst hitters (BA .220 or worse): Gyorko, Wong, Pham
Worst pitchers (ERA 4.60 or higher): Brebbia, C Martinez, Mikolas, FlahertyMarch 5, 2019 at 1:20 pm #83312
stlcard25ParticipantJack Flaherty looking good today…he struck out 7 in a row and 9 through 4 innings on under 70 pitches.
March 5, 2019 at 1:26 pm #83315On individual players, Waino was not very good yesterday, but the game was not on TV, so we could not see him. Even he is trying a new pitch, which tells me he isn’t that confident in what he had. Still plenty of time for someone else to step up if he isn’t the best choice to start.
So you’re saying that an addition would be welcomed?
March 5, 2019 at 1:35 pm #83318I just don’t want past performances earning spots in the rotation. Wainright is one of my favorites all time, but he should have to outpitch the competition, which by the way has been so so lately.
March 5, 2019 at 1:37 pm #83319Flaherty was great today. Call me crazy, but can you say Cy Young candidate? In the minors his control was much better. I look for that to improve this year.
March 5, 2019 at 1:38 pm #83320In the fifth. Miller gave up a HR that the umps missed and ruled a ground rule double.
I am not among those who rag on the guy, but I’ve noticed Fowler did not handle crisply two balls in RF today.
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