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June 12, 2024 at 10:03 am #255952
jj-cf-stlParticipantJune StL lineup (10 games)
12 HR’s. Gorman has 5 and Burley 4. Three guys have 1.
Zero triples.
14 doubles. Ivan’s 4 leading June. Carlson and Goldy both have 2.
We’re slugging .382 and the total bases (131), is being carried by Gorman and Burly who have 25 each. Three players have a slg% over .400; Gorman .658, Burly .595 and Winn at .405
Our ops is .669 (June) and four batters have an ops over .700; Gorman .991, Burly .913, Winn .747 and Carlson .702. Herrera and Arenado are in the .690’s and it’s ugly after that.
June 12, 2024 at 10:37 am #255957He can’t possibly be a worse hitter than Siani.
Yes he can. If he would ever give up the fantasy of being a switch hitter and just hit RH he might make some progress. Supposedly he has been doing that in BP but not in games.
June 12, 2024 at 10:59 am #255961
jj-cf-stlParticipantIts a lefty tonight and i hope Siani sits. The failure is wearing on him.
June 12, 2024 at 11:08 am #25596214NyquisT
ParticipantOriginally posted on St. Louis Cardinals on SI | Last updated 6/12/24
Mozeliak says Edman will possibly returning this month (translation: late July/early August). His return will automatically makes the team better. When Contreras returns… better yet and Nootbaar back even better yet. The negative side is the rotation will likely be worse. Matz isn’t going to make it better at all and shouldn’t be counted to do so.
Winn is the only player exceeding expectations (maybe Burleson) but in general what’s going on now is enough to make a grown man cry.
June 12, 2024 at 11:09 am #255963
jj-cf-stlParticipantJune isolated power: (outage)
.395 Gorman
.310 Burly
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.130 Herrera
.129 Carpenter
.111 Arenado
.108 Winn
.105 Carlson
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.049 Goldy
.043 Siani
.031 Donny
.000 Pages
.000 FerminTwo thumpers this month and a bunch of fly swatters singling.
June 12, 2024 at 11:41 am #255966Does Burleson remain in the regular lineup when Contreras, Nootbaar, Edman and Walker return? Burly, Donovan and Nootbaar seem pretty even, right now, overall. Walker is a wild card for the near future.
June 12, 2024 at 12:09 pm #255967Shady, MO finally fell in love with someone who is developing AND staying healthy. Relax. Your boy is golden.
June 12, 2024 at 12:19 pm #255968I am envisioning Burly and Walker manning the corners.
June 12, 2024 at 12:25 pm #255970blingboy, whom are you envisioning in CF, at 2B and DH?
June 12, 2024 at 1:01 pm #255974ok
June 12, 2024 at 1:08 pm #255975CF Noot, 2B Gorman, DH Donovan/Burleson.
June 12, 2024 at 1:32 pm #255979KCB, what do you feel is Burleson’s conceivable ceiling? Joey Votto-type hitter, maybe? Before the last month, so many have underestimated Burleson’s potential to this point as an MLB player. Those same posters will likely underestimate his ceiling.
June 12, 2024 at 1:33 pm #255980
jj-cf-stlParticipant10 game sample
“Who’s hot, who’s not”
June 12, 2024 at 1:43 pm #255981Yeah, as soon as he draws 143 walks in season he’ll be just like Joey.
June 12, 2024 at 1:50 pm #255983RBK
ParticipantKCB, what do you feel is Burleson’s conceivable ceiling? Joey Votto-type hitter, maybe? Before the last month, so many have underestimated Burleson’s potential to this point as an MLB player. Those same posters will likely underestimate his ceiling.
Votto: 144 OPS+; 145 wRC+ (for his entire career)
Burleson: 95 OPS+; 97 wRC+But hey, at least you’ve stopped claiming Burleson is “the next Tony Gwynn.”
June 12, 2024 at 2:21 pm #255987RBK, so how do you foresee Burleson’s ceiling? Or do you see him merely an AAAA-type?
June 12, 2024 at 2:24 pm #255988Joey Votto??
I was thinking more like Ted Williams or Stan the Man.
June 12, 2024 at 2:30 pm #255990gscottar, nice sarcasm. You seem skeptical of Burleson’s long-range potential. Am I correct assuming that?
June 12, 2024 at 2:42 pm #255991I am just giving you a hard time Shady.
I think Burly is having a fine year and might have a shot at being the Cardinals starting 1B next year, but like some of the other posters, I think it would be nice to talk about someone else on occassion. The obsession over him seems a bit much.
For example, the posters in the MLB Draft thread are probably tired of me talking about Hagen Smith…lol
June 12, 2024 at 2:52 pm #255992RBK
ParticipantRBK, so how do you foresee Burleson’s ceiling? Or do you see him merely an AAAA-type?
Are there any acceptable choices/options in between “Joey Votto” and “AAAA-type” in this imaginary Manichean world you’ve constructed?
June 12, 2024 at 4:08 pm #255999Joey Votto?
God help us.
Mr Shade, I can’t think of a worse comp than Votto. In 608 PA’s your man has walked 37 times. Votto led the league 5 times in walks and has nearly 1,400 for his career.
You can’t possibly be this clueless? You’re pulling our legs, right?
June 12, 2024 at 4:53 pm #256001Shady-Here is Burlesons absolute ceiling. And Burly will never have his obp. But he’s fat and could hit. So I looked his #’s up.
June 12, 2024 at 6:56 pm #256017gscottar, I’m just really thrilled the Cardinals have a youngster that has come up through there system that puts the ball in play so frequently. Often at very hard velocity. I’ve grown weary of so many recent Cardinals hitters that strikeout so much.
June 12, 2024 at 6:59 pm #256019Shady you’ve got to get in touch with today’s game. Striking out isn’t bad and good average doesn’t mean anything.
June 12, 2024 at 7:01 pm #256020Oh yea- A walk is as good as a hit. That’s what we used to say to guys who couldn’t hit.
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