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  • #255952
    jj-cf-stl
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    June StL lineup (10 games)

    12 HR’s. Gorman has 5 and Burley 4. Three guys have 1.

    Zero triples.

    14 doubles. Ivan’s 4 leading June. Carlson and Goldy both have 2.

    We’re slugging .382 and the total bases (131), is being carried by Gorman and Burly who have 25 each. Three players have a slg% over .400; Gorman .658, Burly .595 and Winn at .405

    Our ops is .669 (June) and four batters have an ops over .700; Gorman .991, Burly .913, Winn .747 and Carlson .702. Herrera and Arenado are in the .690’s and it’s ugly after that.

    #255957
    gscottar
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    He can’t possibly be a worse hitter than Siani.

    Yes he can. If he would ever give up the fantasy of being a switch hitter and just hit RH he might make some progress. Supposedly he has been doing that in BP but not in games.

    #255961
    jj-cf-stl
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    Its a lefty tonight and i hope Siani sits. The failure is wearing on him.

    #255962
    14NyquisT
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    Originally posted on St. Louis Cardinals on SI | Last updated 6/12/24

    https://www.si.com/mlb/cardinals/st-louis-cardinals-news/cardinals-gold-glove-winner-reaches-milestone-hinting-that-return-is-near-pat3

    Mozeliak says Edman will possibly returning this month (translation: late July/early August). His return will automatically makes the team better. When Contreras returns… better yet and Nootbaar back even better yet. The negative side is the rotation will likely be worse. Matz isn’t going to make it better at all and shouldn’t be counted to do so.

    Winn is the only player exceeding expectations (maybe Burleson) but in general what’s going on now is enough to make a grown man cry.

    #255963
    jj-cf-stl
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    June isolated power: (outage)

    .395 Gorman
    .310 Burly
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    .130 Herrera
    .129 Carpenter
    .111 Arenado
    .108 Winn
    .105 Carlson
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    .049 Goldy
    .043 Siani
    .031 Donny
    .000 Pages
    .000 Fermin

    Two thumpers this month and a bunch of fly swatters singling.

    #255966
    Shady
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    Does Burleson remain in the regular lineup when Contreras, Nootbaar, Edman and Walker return? Burly, Donovan and Nootbaar seem pretty even, right now, overall. Walker is a wild card for the near future.

    #255967
    KeepComingBack
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    Shady, MO finally fell in love with someone who is developing AND staying healthy. Relax. Your boy is golden.

    #255968
    blingboy
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    I am envisioning Burly and Walker manning the corners.

    #255970
    Shady
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    blingboy, whom are you envisioning in CF, at 2B and DH?

    #255974
    BOCfan
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    ok

    #255975
    blingboy
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    CF Noot, 2B Gorman, DH Donovan/Burleson.

    #255979
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    KCB, what do you feel is Burleson’s conceivable ceiling? Joey Votto-type hitter, maybe? Before the last month, so many have underestimated Burleson’s potential to this point as an MLB player. Those same posters will likely underestimate his ceiling.

    #255980
    jj-cf-stl
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    10 game sample

    “Who’s hot, who’s not”

    #255981
    1toughdominican
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    Yeah, as soon as he draws 143 walks in season he’ll be just like Joey.

    #255983
    RBK
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    KCB, what do you feel is Burleson’s conceivable ceiling? Joey Votto-type hitter, maybe? Before the last month, so many have underestimated Burleson’s potential to this point as an MLB player. Those same posters will likely underestimate his ceiling.

    Votto: 144 OPS+; 145 wRC+ (for his entire career)
    Burleson: 95 OPS+; 97 wRC+

    But hey, at least you’ve stopped claiming Burleson is “the next Tony Gwynn.”

    #255987
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    RBK, so how do you foresee Burleson’s ceiling? Or do you see him merely an AAAA-type?

    #255988
    gscottar
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    Joey Votto??

    I was thinking more like Ted Williams or Stan the Man.

    #255990
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    gscottar, nice sarcasm. You seem skeptical of Burleson’s long-range potential. Am I correct assuming that?

    #255991
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    I am just giving you a hard time Shady.

    I think Burly is having a fine year and might have a shot at being the Cardinals starting 1B next year, but like some of the other posters, I think it would be nice to talk about someone else on occassion. The obsession over him seems a bit much.

    For example, the posters in the MLB Draft thread are probably tired of me talking about Hagen Smith…lol

    #255992
    RBK
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    RBK, so how do you foresee Burleson’s ceiling? Or do you see him merely an AAAA-type?

    Are there any acceptable choices/options in between “Joey Votto” and “AAAA-type” in this imaginary Manichean world you’ve constructed?

    #255999
    Albert de Morcerf
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    Joey Votto?

    God help us.

    Mr Shade, I can’t think of a worse comp than Votto. In 608 PA’s your man has walked 37 times. Votto led the league 5 times in walks and has nearly 1,400 for his career.

    You can’t possibly be this clueless? You’re pulling our legs, right?

    #256001
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    Shady-Here is Burlesons absolute ceiling. And Burly will never have his obp. But he’s fat and could hit. So I looked his #’s up.

    https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/krukjo01.shtml

    #256017
    Shady
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    gscottar, I’m just really thrilled the Cardinals have a youngster that has come up through there system that puts the ball in play so frequently. Often at very hard velocity. I’ve grown weary of so many recent Cardinals hitters that strikeout so much.

    #256019
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    Shady you’ve got to get in touch with today’s game. Striking out isn’t bad and good average doesn’t mean anything.

    #256020
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    Oh yea- A walk is as good as a hit. That’s what we used to say to guys who couldn’t hit.

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