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Currently BTV has Peralta’s value at 26mil and Meyers 7.5mil, totaling 33.5mil.
They have 30.7mil value on Donovan.
Donovan for Jett Williams and Brandon Sproat. Would you have taken these two for Donny or kept looking?
Adding Romero’s 6.3mil to Donny is 37mil total, compared to Peralta / Meyers at 33.5mil.
Pugs, what about Gage Wood?
Can you imagine a rotation featuring him and “Richard” Fitts?!?
Announcer: Tonight the Cardinals are going to “Richard” Fitts and tomorrow they will ask a lot from Gage Wood.
Nice return for a year of Peralta. If the Cards get two back end top 100 guys for Donovan and Romero, I would have to think they’d take it.
JJ, From a value perspective 100% I would.
From a needs perspective, it would have to involve other moves. With Winn and JJW hopefully extended in ST and if/when Victor starts getting on base, his positions are hopefully blocked.
Having a Blaze and a Jett on the same team would be fun though! Unfortunately we now have to face him a lot each year when he is in his prime and Cards are contenders.
For those that are bored, Thursday morning ”Chaim takes the deal”?
One for one deal back for Donnie. OF or CI guys with a minimum of 55 projected power is my “must have”.
Copy and paste? Two options are acceptable in this.
Mariners:
Red Sox:
Dodgers:
Giants:
Yankees:
Guardians:
Royals:
Padres:
Mystery team:I like that Sproat has debuted and Jett is near ready. That would fit us well.
How would Sproat rank vs Fitts and Dobbins?
Sproat is a level above Fitts, who is a level above Dobbins. For our system guys, Sproat is a Quinn Mathews, Fitts is an Ixan Henderson and Dobbins is a Mason Molina, to switch the righties over to lefty. All could work out, what it looks like when they work out means different things. Sproat should be a #3/4 for many years. Fitts is more a #4/5 guy, and you’d be happy to just get Dobbins to the big leagues.
Which is the better return for us?
Brandon Sproat and Jett Williams
Or
Hunter Barco and Jhostynxon Garcia
(PIT)Barco and Garcia is a little better return than Sproat and Williams, both overall and for our team need (although we are loaded with LHSP right now). Both Barco and Nixon are MLB ready, while only Sproat is of the Mets’ duo.
I have no doubt that Sproat will be a #2 starter for the Brewers and they’ll trade him away in 5 years for the next Peralta/Sproat. They are a very smart franchise.
For those that are bored, Thursday morning ”Chaim takes the deal”?
One for one deal back for Donnie. OF or CI guys with a minimum of 55 projected power is my “must have”.
Copy and paste? Two options are acceptable in this.
Mariners:
For the sake of discussion only, Seattle’s equivalent of Jett Williams and Brandon Sproat might be OF/DH Lazaro Montes and SS Felnin Celesten.
MLB.com ranks the 21-year-old Montes and the 22-year-old Williams No. 29 and No. 30 on its Top 100 prospect list:
https://www.mlb.com/milb/prospects/top100/
FanGraphss grades Montes 40/60 for Game Power and 65/70 for Raw Power while grading Williams 40/55 for Game Power and 50/55 for Raw Power.
The 25-year-old Sproat was a Top 100 prospect a year ago but has fallen off Top 100 lists after a generally disapointing MLB debut. The 20-year-old Celesten was a Top 100 prospect a year ago but has fallen off Top 100 list after a lackluster season.
Williams and Sproat are closer to MLB than Montes and Celesten but the Cardinals might prefer the latter if the St. Louis competitive window is further out.
Chances of a Brendan Donovan trade to Seattle are probably less than 50 percent.
Good comparison, Harmony55. I would imagine that the Cardinals would want a pitcher back in the deal, as opposed to a young SS. Who would you propose as the 2nd piece in the deal if the main piece was Montes?
Good comparison, Harmony55. I would imagine that the Cardinals would want a pitcher back in the deal, as opposed to a young SS. Who would you propose as the 2nd piece in the deal if the main piece was Montes?
Seattle probably should not trade for Brendan Donovan if Lazaro Montes is involved.
If Montes is the headliner, pitchers Kade Anderson, Ryan Sloan and Jurrangelo Cijintje are clearly off the table. That leaves the pitching bucket of Teddy McGraw. Logan Evans, Emerson Hancock and Michael Morales.
Donovan might raise the floor for the Mariners but Seattle’s in-house options could have higher ceilings.
Yeah, I assumed that the Ms would not give up two top 100 prospects. Hancock might actually be Sproat-like as a former top 100 guy who fell from grace a bit. Not sure how Ms fans feel about him as a trade candidate.
I would not agree that the Mariners other options have higher ceilings for 2026. Donovan is 4+ WAR with a healthy full 2025, and none of the Ms options has that in the bag. Now, 2027, they may be fine passing on Donnie. But when the big prize is right there in front of you, sometimes you want to go for it. The Mariners were my 2nd favorite team for a long time, so I think it would be great to see them get a title.
Emerson Hancock is a good comp for Brandon Sproat.
After finishing innings shy of a World Series berth, Seattle returns Josh Naylor at first base and J.P. Crawford at shortstop.
The infield question marks are at second base and third base:
Is 20-year-old Top 10 prospect Colt Emerson ready for The Show?
Can 22-year-old former Top 50 prospect Cole Young hold down second base after mixed results in his 2025 debut?
Do Ben Williamson’s defensive contributions behind a solid pitching staff justify his slotting at third base?
Can the Mariners get a 2026 rebound from 2025 Opening Day second baseman Ryan Bliss, whose injury snapped his streak of starting 11 of the first 12 games at the keystone?
Can the Mariners count on Leo Rivas, who started the final four postseason games at second base after posting an OPS+ of 113 in 48 regular-season games?
At least in 2026, Donovan is likely a surer bet than any of these five individuals. However, the Mariners need only two of the five to step up at second base and third base.
If the Mariners acquire Donovan, these players will be needed to cover the average 24 percent of games Donovan misses each season (including 27 percent in 2025).
Harmony, I love Arroyo even over Montes. I think I’ve made that way to clear! Hah
On top of Donnie, what would it take to get Arroyo and Clijente? Jesus (not Josh) Baez? Noot?
Give us a realistic package for those two when you get a second?
Yes indeed to giving Ro-Ro (Arroyo) the nod. You know, I find myself agreeing with CardsFanInChiTown about 95% of the time these days…….what is it that they say about great minds?
Harmony, I love Arroyo even over Montes. I think I’ve made that way to clear! Hah
On top of Donnie, what would it take to get Arroyo and Clijente? Jesus (not Josh) Baez? Noot?
Give us a realistic package for those two when you get a second?
Seattle is in a win-now mode so the Baez prospects would be unlikely trade targets.
Some Mariner fans would be interested in Brendan Donovan and JoJo Romero or Riley O’Brien for Michael Arroyo and Jurrangelo Cijntje.
Is one year of the 29-year-old Romero worth more than five years of the nearly 31-year-old O’Brien, whom the Mariners jettisoned in November 2023?
The Mariners may be prepared to move on from Brendan Donovan.
55,
Donovan: 3.05 fwar/583 (24-25′)Industry standard is look back as far as you are purchasing forward. All buyers. Age related decline if necessary.
Cherry picking Donovan by solo seasons (PA’s) should expect the same in return to begin, on all.
55,
Donovan: 3.05 fwar/583 (24-25′)Industry standard is look back as far as you are purchasing forward. All buyers. Age related decline if necessary.
Alternatively, Brendan Donovan averaged 2.65 bWAR over the 2024-25 seasons:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/donovbr01.shtml
… which gives Donovan some value.
The provided calculation suggests Seattle did well in its November 2021 trade for one year of IF/OF Adam Frazier, who was coming off a 4 bWAR (3.3 fWAR) season and his only All Star appearance. Donovan and Frazier were compared earlier on this thread:
… on Page 4.
What weight should we give this report from Wednesday?
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The Seattle Mariners have told the St. Louis Cardinals they are where they are – and that’s the ceilingThe Cardinals and Giants have picked up steam – I wouldn’t rule out Cardinals going with Seattle but their attention is making sure Seattles offer is the one they should take I assume.
Red Sox, Yankees and Houston have exhausted what they have in their talks – didn’t seem to move needle.
If Houston had exactly what Cardinals wanted – he did been traded to Houston day 2 of the winter – it’s not their want – it’s just their bank account so to speak.
This is the final week of Donovan being traded – you can just feel it – if he isn’t moved this week – cardinals will probably keep him.
12:29 PM · Jan 20, 2026
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1.2M ViewsHere’s a novel idea… Since Donovan already has a GG, and since he is the closest that the Cardinals have to anchor an infield of young, mostly inexperienced players, we just keep Donovan and let him be our starting second baseman. Yes, we already have four other players that could start at second base. But none of them would fit into second base as well as Donovan. See how things look at the end of the 2026 season, and maybe offer him a 3-4 year extension.
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