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August 5, 2018 at 5:51 pm #64233
NJ315
ParticipantReplacing Martinez with Munoz saved the tying from scoring. No way Martinez cuts off that ball.
August 6, 2018 at 10:34 am #64292As Brian pointed out in another thread we have now won three series in a row, all against contenders. There is no doubt we have improved since the managerial change.
August 6, 2018 at 11:34 am #6430214NyquisT
ParticipantThe team has improved more with Fowler going on the DL.
August 9, 2018 at 7:44 pm #64797Talk about poor writing, the headline is about Schildt, but most of the article is about Girardi…
August 9, 2018 at 8:13 pm #64804I won’t give it a click, then, but it is fair to note that sometimes, editors create the titles rather than the author. Don’t know if that is the case here.
August 9, 2018 at 9:20 pm #64812IMO, Schildt looks like a manager, walks like a manager, talks like a manager, manages like a manager…… He doesn’t appear to have other agendas. He doesn’t think he needs to live inside his players’ heads to be successful. He just does what he does, and that’s manage a baseball team, so far, successfully.
August 9, 2018 at 11:28 pm #64816I have been a supporter of Shildt since watching his Johnson City teams play. Small sample but I really liked the way the team went about playing. Also I have been impressed about his insights in interviews with him. So far he seems to be getting quite a bit of support.
Different from the haters who railed about Matheny from day 1. Not even a 100 win season could soften the attitudes. Hope Shildt doesn’t have to go through something like that.
August 10, 2018 at 9:16 am #64840A lot of the national writers are now saying that Girardi’s next job will be with the Cubs.
Does Joe Maddon know about this?
August 10, 2018 at 9:54 am #64846Haven’t seen that about Girardi replacing Maddon. To which national writers are you referring? I’d like to read what is being said. Thanks.
August 10, 2018 at 9:59 am #64847I read one article on that. Sounded like pure speculation to me. The writer was trying connect dots that were a long ways apart!
August 10, 2018 at 10:00 am #64848NJ315
ParticipantThere were no Matheny haters. Thinking he wasn’t the best manager to hire at the time when they interviewed Francona is not hate. Thinking he was at his best an average manager is not hate. I like Shildt and I hope he gets the job. I like what he has done so far and the players seem to have responded to the long time needed replacing of Matheny and thinking that does not make a Matheny hater.
August 10, 2018 at 10:16 am #6485114NyquisT
ParticipantPossibly clearing out some dead weight on the roster, especially the relief corpes, and getting help from Memphis in the BP and with younger outfielders, the problematic Fowler going to the DL, and Carpenter’s phoenix rise to MVP talk, have made Schlitz look a lot more like a manager than he is.
If Matheny was still here he would have looked better with these recent moves.
August 10, 2018 at 10:32 am #64860If Matheny was still here he would have looked better with these recent moves.
Matheny would still be playing JMart at 1st and letting pitchers bat one inning, only to take them out of the game the next.
Schildt’s biggest issue had been his insistence on playing Fowler, which most of us believe is a directive from the front office.
August 10, 2018 at 10:58 am #6487014NyquisT
ParticipantIf Matheny was still here he would have looked better with these recent moves.
The fact remains that the team is now better. Our manager’s hand in that is questionable. IMO, it’s the younger guys that have stepped up + Carpomania.
August 10, 2018 at 11:17 am #64873I see it this way. If the front office/ownership had thought more player changes alone would have been enough, they would not have gone through all the turmoil and risk that is inherent in an in-season managerial change.
Further, trying to assess levels of praise or blame from this vantage point is by definition one person’s opinion versus another.
August 10, 2018 at 12:04 pm #6487614NyquisT
ParticipantThanks Brian, I agree.
If you look at all of my comments on this site, there were no comments, pro or con, on Matheny, until after the firing. I just think he got a raw deal as a scapegoat.
August 10, 2018 at 12:31 pm #64882Brian, I don’t remember who wrote the article about Giardi to the Cubs. I’ll try to find it.
August 10, 2018 at 3:37 pm #64886bccran
ParticipantIt’s normal for analytical fans to criticize the manager. It happened with Joe, Whitey, Tony, and MM.
Not more or less with any of them.August 10, 2018 at 10:16 pm #64929Shildt obviously doing some things right but his quick hook on starters worries me in relationship to wearing out his bullpen. Probably wont see it this year do to Sept call ups but if manager next year, is something that needs to be watched.
August 10, 2018 at 10:43 pm #64938but his quick hook on starters worries me in relationship to wearing out his bullpen.
This is offset in part by having relievers in the bullpen that can go multiple innings and allowing such relievers to pitch more than one inning at a time.
August 10, 2018 at 11:15 pm #64941Ponce is probably the only bullpen guy not available tomorrow night. Shildt is clearly not allowing a struggling pitcher hang on hoping to qualify for a win. And I don’t recall a game where he had run out of relief pitchers.
August 11, 2018 at 8:34 am #64954bccran
ParticipantMM was probably given the job because he’s good with young players. Had worked with the minor leaguers as a consultant. Unfortunately, he had little patience with some veterans who didn’t exhibit a team first attitude. The atmosphere became toxic and a change was needed. Shildt has the same background of working within the Cardinals system and knows a lot of the young players. Hope he gets the job permenantly. He bleeds Cardinal Red. And seems competent with in game management.
August 11, 2018 at 12:17 pm #64986Oquendo explains why managing is not important for him now. But for me, the quote at the end is most telling. He seems to be endorsing Shildt’s managing style.
“Right now the team is playing with more enthusiasm and they are more focused on the game. They are doing some different things, like being more aggressive and other things that we should have been doing from the beginning,” he concluded.
August 11, 2018 at 12:54 pm #64991I get the feeling that Shildt will have the 2019 reigns as the official 50th manager of your St. Louis Cardinals. Especially with all of the blossoming young talent, he should be good for a nice long run as our skipper.
August 11, 2018 at 1:22 pm #64993I like relievers pitching multiple innings, as long as they are not struggling. It seems that the bullpen might only have 1 unavailable arm, instead of 2 or 3. It may allow us to keep another position player for the bench. It helps also that we have minor league starters like PDL and Hudson who can handle it. Their infusion in the bullpen has increased my confidence that we are on the right track. Hopefully O’Neill can get healthy and play every day.
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