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March 26, 2024 at 3:28 pm #245022
Should we now troll Oriole’s fans after Gibson’s good Spring Training game?
March 26, 2024 at 3:55 pm #245026If some of us think Palacios is better than Burleson, then maybe the Rays felt that way, too… Unfortunately, the two teams have to agree to make a trade. One side cannot dictate to the other.
If one wanted the best defense at all costs, then Siani should be a starter. Of course, like in everything, there has to be a balance.
Putting Walker at DH could not be done in a vacuum. Carpenter should not play in the field and ideally, Burleson wouldn’t either. Someone has to be in the OF and at least Walker is young enough that he could continue to improve. In that scenario, Donovan would also surely be needed in the OF, limiting his utility value, etc…
By supposedly fixing this, you would end up creating other problems…
March 26, 2024 at 4:17 pm #245033I really like the Palacios/Kittredge trade. Palacios has never impressed me much. I know he had a good finish last season. Besides you have to give something to get something. And you can’t be afraid to pull the the trigger on a trade.
March 26, 2024 at 4:22 pm #245034Putting Walker at DH could not be done in a vacuum. Carpenter should not play in the field and ideally, Burleson wouldn’t either. Someone has to be in the OF and at least Walker is young enough that he could continue to improve. In that scenario, Donovan would also surely be needed in the OF, limiting his utility value, etc…
Carpenter should not even be on the roster. Can’t wait until the end of the season he’s got over 400 at bats because the FO couldn’t factor in injuries before signing him and saying he’s only gonna get limited playing time.
March 26, 2024 at 4:34 pm #245037If he collects 400 AB’s, it translates to roughly 500 PA’s. Nightmare scenario…
March 26, 2024 at 8:53 pm #245092BHC, I get how you feel, but it isn’t the off-season anymore. It isn’t even spring training anymore. The team is pretty much set and roles are pretty much set.
March 26, 2024 at 8:53 pm #245093Free-agent left-hander Jordan Montgomery in agreement with Diamondbacks, pending physical. Deal will pay him $25M this season, includes vesting player option for second year. First with agreement: @JeffPassan
— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) March 27, 2024
March 26, 2024 at 9:24 pm #245094Well, dang. I was holding out hope that somehow Montgomery would still end up a Cardinal again.
March 26, 2024 at 10:41 pm #245100
cardsfan64ParticipantZTR posted
Well, dang. I was holding out hope that somehow Montgomery would still end up a Cardinal again.
Well, he can……… next year!
March 27, 2024 at 5:20 am #245102Walker at DH
Walker is young enough that he could continue to improve.
I take issue with both of these propositions.
The narrative as to Walker was that he was shifted off 3B because he was blocked, not because he wasn’t good enough to stay there going forward. So it is not RF or DH. He could get unblocked, at 3B or 1B. That could happen later this season or next winter.
My quick and rough calculation has Walker with 1,575 innings in the outfield. 900+ in major league, the rest minors and AFL. Going forward, more experience will help, and wear and tear will hurt. Which wins out, who knows, but there is no compelling reason to assume it will be the former. We know that Walker in the outfield is a difficult fit with ungraceful moments.
My thinking is he will end up at 1B. I hope that happens before he damages himself too much diving around in the outfield.
March 27, 2024 at 5:58 am #245103
jj-cf-stlParticipantWalkers best position is “trade chip”.
March 27, 2024 at 7:09 am #245105bling, we’ve been through this before. Monthly data metrics provided showed Walker improved defensively as last season progressed. But since you don’t believe in numbers, you remain dead set that a 21-year-old who has been playing outfield for only a year and a half can never improve. Every glass is at least half empty.
March 27, 2024 at 10:45 am #245117
jj-cf-stlParticipantWalkers value to the Cardinals is as a hitter and base runner and should be his entire focus going forward. Every minute spent on developing him as an outfielder is wasted development.
This is poor asset management. Jordan should be pointed toward his best opportunities to succeed, not fail.
March 27, 2024 at 11:17 am #245122As devastating to some as the thought may be, its not just about advanced metrics. If he stays in RF I see Allen Craig all over again. If he is deployed were the physical wear and tear is minimized, he could have a long and productive career.
March 27, 2024 at 1:06 pm #245127Looks like Boras really mis-read the market for Monty. A one, possibly two year deal for $25M per. Man, we should have been all over that and brought him back.
But this is really a risky deal for Montgomery, as he only signs for one, possibly two years. He likely won’t increase his value that much in a year, but could easily end up on the DL or just not have a real impressive season. Who knows what kind of offers he got, but this is looking similar to when Lance Lynn turned down the $17.5M he could have gotten when he left us, and signed for quite a bit less with the Minneapolis-St. Paul Twins.
The D-Backs now have two ex-Cardinals in their rotation, their ace Zac Gallen and now Montgomery. Goldy might be saying, “Heck, if I would have thought my old team would be better than my current team, I would have stayed in the desert.” 🙂
March 27, 2024 at 2:31 pm #245134Too bad for Goldy Arizona made it to the WS before he could with the Cardinals. Maybe he still get a chance to not only get to the WS but win it. I don’t like his chances with the Cardinals. But anything is possible.
March 28, 2024 at 6:59 am #245170Goldy did not ask to be traded. He was heading into his final contract year and Arizona felt they couldn’t afford to keep him as a free agent.
It turned out to be a great acquisition for St. Louis.
March 30, 2024 at 3:54 pm #245600Yeah it has been a strange turn of events. I’m sure when Goldy left Arizona he would have never imagined that they would have returned to the World Series before his new team did.
March 30, 2024 at 6:17 pm #245640March 30, 2024 at 6:41 pm #245641Wow, Cabrera is lucky it isn’t the old days.
March 30, 2024 at 7:08 pm #245642Not so much BP guys, but in the old days most pitchers were aware that eventually they’d have to stand in the batter’s box. That thought went a long way in regards to on the field justice being served.
March 30, 2024 at 8:59 pm #245679When Hicks has sustained success in games that count against good teams (sorry Oakland), then I will take notice. One spring training game (good or bad) isn’t nearly enough to draw any conclusions from.
Well Hicks just struck out 6 Padres in 5 innings. Giants leading 9-1 headed to the bottom of the 9th.
March 31, 2024 at 1:46 pm #245819Former #STLCards and current #BlueJays LHP Génesis Cabrera has received a three-game suspension and an undisclosed fine for his on-field actions, which caused a benches-clearing incident, during the bottom of the seventh inning of Saturday’s game vs. the #Rays, MLB announced.
— John Denton (@JohnDenton555) March 31, 2024
April 1, 2024 at 8:45 am #245954Genesis (properly pronounced “Hen-asis”) “Cabby” Cabrera, suspended 3 games by MLB for instigating an all out Donnybrook in Saturday’s game vs Tampa. Jack Flaherty turns in 6 quality innings, surrendering just one run on four hits and striking out 7 while issuing no walks in Detroit’s 3-2 win on Sunday vs Chicago’s White Sox. And speaking of the ChiSox, Paul DeJong got off the schneid with a towering tater in this game, but it was whacked off Chafin and not his old pal Jack “Flash” Flaherty.
April 1, 2024 at 8:47 am #245955Sorry Scotty, just now noticed that you reported the Cabby news yesterday….which is just like you….always at least one step ahead of the rest of us.
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