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October 14, 2022 at 11:58 am #204573
Sutter was only 69 years old. Was always a big fan of his. Always love to bring Sutter into the game during the late innings when I’m playing Strat-O-Matic. He is almost always pretty much money in the bank.
October 14, 2022 at 12:32 pm #2045761982 willieParticipantMy son texted me about this, not long before he texted me about the guy who played hagrid in the Harry Potter movies dying. It’s hard to wrap around. I just don’t think of these guys as being that old but I’m getting that old so it shouldn’t surprise me. I think your mental picture of people tends to hang around your biggest memories of them so it skews your thinking. To me Bruce was and is the best closer I ever saw. He could easily go multiple innings as well as come into innings with guys on. No jab at worrell cause he was great but I think if sutter is the closer in 85, he doesn’t give up those runs after that horrendous call. Rest in peace, Bruce. In my memories you will always exist.
October 14, 2022 at 3:56 pm #204588Man, Brock, Gibson and now Bruce Sutter gone. My Cardinal HOF heroes who provided me with countless thrills. Bruce Sutter was without question the best closer I’ve seen play. Hand him the baseball in the 7th and hang another W on the board.
October 15, 2022 at 10:46 am #204644Thought of making a separate thread on the passing of Bruce Sutter, but this is as good of a place as any to share our memories and respects for Bruce.
Those of us who watched the Cardinals in the 1980s recall what a terrific weapon “Engine #42” was in the late innings. I was a bit concerned about Whitey giving up Leon “Bull” Durham in the deal to acquire Sutter, but with Keith Hernandez anchored at first it was dealing from strength.
Sutter was a phenom when he first came up with the Cubs and threw the split-finger. No one had seen quite the effect it had, even though the pitch had been thrown well before his time, most notably by the Pirates’ Elroy Face. But I believe Sutter threw it with more velocity.
He was often used for more than an inning, as was the practice back then. He would come in and usually take care of the final 4-9 outs of a game. From mid-1976 to 1984, we was incredible. Not only was he tough to hit, and would strike out a lot of hitters, he rarely walked anyone. His career K/BB is close to 4 (I think it is 3.64).
One of the guys that pioneered the closer role. Hard to see these guys pass on. RIP Bruce!
October 15, 2022 at 11:21 am #204646I remember the Cardinals tried to sign him but he left for a bigger payday and a no trade clause. We were lucky Worrell emerged by the end of the next season.
October 15, 2022 at 1:43 pm #204654Yep, Ted Turner wanted to get the Braves back to being competitive as they were a big part of his WTBS programming. So he opened the checkbook and brought in Sutter. But in a similar way that Ernie Broglio was damaged goods when he left the Cardinals, Sutter experienced the same fate.
Bruce may have gotten hurt either in Spring Training or early in the year, as I recall he had a good Spring and seemed like the same consistent pitcher he had been. But then struggled fairly early in ‘85.
October 23, 2022 at 2:02 pm #205270Former #stlcards scout and staffer in Luhnow days. https://t.co/NS97FNx4tZ
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) October 23, 2022
October 23, 2022 at 3:45 pm #205275Didn’t Luhnow relocate to Mexico and get involved in the Mexican League? Any idea what he is doing now?
October 23, 2022 at 5:25 pm #205280Luhnow is running lower level soccer teams in Mexico and Spain. He is still in denial that he knew anything against the rules was happening in Houston. No one other than his wife apparently believes him.
https://www.si.com/mlb/2022/10/13/jeff-luhnow-soccer-astros-daily-cover
October 23, 2022 at 7:25 pm #205284He had better luck convincing people that nothing proprietary left STL with him. Eventually it catches up to you.
November 18, 2022 at 4:06 pm #207121Yankees Claim Junior Fernandez From Pirates https://t.co/YP0njIghle pic.twitter.com/SooPox3Iwy
— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) November 18, 2022
November 24, 2022 at 10:22 am #207550Shelby Miller Drawing Interest From Multiple Clubs https://t.co/0IwSDqx4St pic.twitter.com/NguLURuFvQ
— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) November 24, 2022
November 27, 2022 at 1:25 pm #207668#Dodgers are among a long list of teams showing interest in former All-Star closer Alex Reyes.
Reyes missed last season due to injuries but was one of the best relievers in the NL when healthy in 2021.
— Juan Toribio (@juanctoribio) November 27, 2022
November 27, 2022 at 1:35 pm #207669Reyes would be smart to go to LA. In half a year he would outperform anyone in the Cards bullpen except Helsley for a team like the Dodgers.
November 29, 2022 at 8:37 pm #207764Dodgers To Sign Shelby Miller To Major League Deal https://t.co/aQ08pXgvwp pic.twitter.com/wpkxa1fpNj
— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) November 30, 2022
November 30, 2022 at 5:59 am #207778Nine lives has Mr. Miller…
December 2, 2022 at 3:15 pm #207920Wong traded to Seattle
December 2, 2022 at 3:18 pm #207921More details on the Wong trade.
The Seattle Mariners and Milwaukee Brewers are finalizing a trade that will send outfielder Jesse Winker and infielder Abraham Toro to the Brewers for second baseman Kolten Wong and around $1.75 million in cash, sources familiar with the deal tell ESPN. It’s at the finish line.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) December 2, 2022
December 2, 2022 at 3:35 pm #207922I read where Seattle considered Winker cancerous. He is now free to take his bad back to Milwaukee while a winning player heads westward.
December 2, 2022 at 3:40 pm #207923And Winker mows us over because we won’t pitch around him. I hope he isn’t well, because he was a Cardinal killer!
December 2, 2022 at 4:46 pm #2079310.0 Toro
1.8 Winker
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1.75 cashBTV has 1.80 for 1.85
December 8, 2022 at 2:20 pm #208572Also mentioned elsewhere, the New York Mets signed starting pitcher José Quintana to a two-year, $26 million deal.
December 8, 2022 at 4:44 pm #208588Athletics To Sign Aledmys Diaz https://t.co/SzUC280iEd pic.twitter.com/mvgYZMrxsv
— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) December 7, 2022
December 8, 2022 at 4:45 pm #208589Dodgers Sign Jason Heyward To Minor League Deal https://t.co/z61UygrysG pic.twitter.com/pQnScuo1a0
— MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) December 8, 2022
December 8, 2022 at 5:07 pm #208596Quintana was essentially pitching in his walk year in 2022. It will be interesting to see what he does now that he’s clocked an additional $26M which will probably be his last contract.
Jason Heyward is always high on the list of “worst contracts”. He had that real good year with us, and never came close to that in Chicago. He did get a ring though and will forever be cemented in Cubs lore as a member of the team that broke the curse. Dexter will be as well.
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