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Another thing that will have to be worked out is players who have performance bonuses in their contracts or have vesting options based on plate appearances or innings pitched. Adam Wainwright and Andrew Miller come to mind.
Pretty sure those will fall under force majeure
Pretty sure those will fall under force majeure
Yes, but force majeure clauses can be written differently depending on the specifics of the contract. I suspect everything is going to have to be negotiated by MLB and the MLBPA.
Finally, a more realistic view…
No surprise here, but the MLB regular season is unlikely to begin before May: https://t.co/nVLdJ2AKM9
— Chris Cotillo (@ChrisCotillo) March 14, 2020
Bowtie will have to get cracking earlier than usual for any roster upgrades if some things fall off the rails. lol
I also see a possibly extension of the deadline by 15-30 days into August.
Experts say we are one to two months away from the peak. June 1st is optimistic. July 4th is possible but far from guaranteed.
Here is an off the cuff idea if they are not able to start before mid-august.
32 team elimination tournament (4 rounds, all best of 7 series). 32 teams? How is that you ask. You have two independent teams. One made up of unsigned/free agent players and another of top minor leaguers.
Teams would be seeded based on last years records.
CC thinking outside the box. Interesting. Yours is the most reasonable estimate on time from my POV, which probably means you’re way off!
I love the idea of of a tournament or World Baseball Classic type approach if the season starts very late. The two independent teams might be shaky given the lack of organizational infrastructure in place to create them. Also, 32 teams would require 5 rounds in a standard tourney format. Pool play could also be considered to cull the field into a final smaller tournament, similar to NCAA. They mow through 64 teams fairly quickly in their tournament.
I drove by the complex on the way out of town yesterday. There were about 20 cars in the parking lot and no one on fields #1-#6. Weird, vacant feeling.
Those words almost brought tears to my eyes.
The amount of disappointment of all sports fans is enormous. Me included.
My sympathy to all the NCAAM fans.
Baseball's first positive coronavirus case is Yankees minor leaguer, report says. https://t.co/mG3PpD5qnL
— WFAN Sports Radio (@WFAN660) March 15, 2020
Starting today, all #Yankees minor leaguers will be quarantined for two weeks, sources tell me and @LindseyAdler. Food will be delivered to them at their hotel rooms. Team learned earlier that a NYY minor leaguer tested positive for COVID-19.
— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) March 15, 2020
So minor leaguers do not get paid during the suspension in play? Not that they make a lot any way? That would stink.
Apparently, MLB executives are finally catching up with what was obvious to the rest of us from the very start of this…
The hoped-for April 9 MLB start date was always seen as a best-case scenario, and with developments over the past few days, based on talks with several execs today anytime before June would be viewed as welcome.
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) March 15, 2020
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So minor leaguers do not get paid during the suspension in play? Not that they make a lot any way? That would stink.
No. Minor leaguers do not receive pay until their respective regular seasons begin. Because they are under contract, they are not eligible for unemployment. Finding an interim job would be a challenge for most since they cannot say how long they could stay. This is worse for some than others, of course.
If we want any hope of any start before June then one of the other major sports leagues will have to do something in regards to postseason play. Manfred isn’t going to be the torchbearer leading his league into playing games first.
Plus you’ve pretty much shut down spring training. 2 weeks from now all that hard work for some might be lost and will need to be restarted. I hope the best case is 3 weeks and we can get players back into ST workouts and games by early April. That would be enough time for a May start.
Apparently, MLB executives are finally catching up with what was obvious to the rest of us from the very start of this…
On the other side of the coin, what will be the criteria used to resume society’s various activities? I’m talking much more broadly than baseball. Most of our local county activities are suspending, with trash collection being an exception. Erring on the side of caution makes sense for now given the unknowns, but for example, when will governments have confidence to resume school attendance? What will that decision be based upon? Now that some difficult decisions have been made, reversing those decisions might be even more difficult. Resuming the myriad of operations won’t be based on a good vaccine or effective antiviral treatments being available any time soon.
Government and business have some challenging decisions ahead to balance risk and practicality, while keeping panic and fear at bay. They are certainly in the head scratching phase trying to just imagine the possibilities of all the issues, let alone the answers.
On the other side of the coin, what will be the criteria used to resume society’s various activities?
Excellent point ED. Like you I tend to believe it will be a slow process but it has brought one huge realization to me. If I start my two week quarantine (as I did Saturday) I won’t be able to end it after only two weeks because there will no doubt still be a lot of walking virus spreaders out there. What is advertised as two weeks may well turn out to be two months and that will make it very difficult so I guess I better start picking and choosing my activities eliminating the most obvious that present danger. Baseball? June 1st is my best guess – if not later. BUT, word is that China is now recovering very fast. Two days ago the whole country only had 11 new infections.
Playing baseball in April is simply not going to happen. Unless CDC recommendations change, May looks doubtful too.
My assessment of the best possible case would be players allowed to assemble in mid-May and games start June 1.
Not sure what criteria was used but Japan had closed their schools for a month but are reopening them aftrr 2 weeks.
Well, the CDC could always adjust their recommendation if they believe the risk is diminished enough later, but in the meantime, I will trust the national health experts as knowing what is best for our collective safety.
This time, it seems the “shutdown” would be complete. Again/still, it feels to me that MLB is slow to react to what is happening around us.
Waiting for official word on the status of @Cardinals camp and MLB in general. Getting the sense that things are coming to an end down here. Meetings, calls taking place. #stlcards
— Tom Ackerman (@Ackerman1120) March 16, 2020
Official word from #MLB is expected later today, but #Cardinals are packing up their gear from the clubhouse and leaving the facility. Bats, gloves, almost everything. Asked how they’re going to maintain, stay ready: “We are going to find out.” #stlcards
— Derrick Goold (@dgoold) March 16, 2020
OK, so Manfred finally took the reality pill on the start date, but he is still delusional about playing 162 games this season.
“We are not going to start on April 9,” Rob Manfred tells us as he leaves conference call. Says he’s not going to speculate, but he says owners are still hopeful to play a full schedule, unsure how. Limiting informal workouts, not locking camps. Spoke to @stltoday on this matter.
— Derrick Goold (@dgoold) March 16, 2020
Of course the owners hope they can still rake in maximum profits, but eventually they’ll have to face reality. I doubt they’ll get more than 100-120 games in.
Well it appears the regular season won’t start until around June 1. To play 162 games they are either going to have to play multiple double headers per week and/or still be playing on Christmas Day. It doesn’t seem feasible to me.
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