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March 16, 2020 at 12:42 pm #124805
Without a doubt, scrub the interleague games. IIRC that eliminates 20 games.
March 16, 2020 at 2:49 pm #124807MLB is taking the CDC recommendation to heart. At face value, this says they support the eight week delay from yesterday, March 15…
Statement from Major League Baseball: pic.twitter.com/E5xPfMGOc0
— MLB (@MLB) March 16, 2020
March 16, 2020 at 3:59 pm #124811Here’s an interesting paragraph I found by Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun Times. This is his answer to the question ‘Will Cubs players still get paid their full salaries despite losing the first month of the season?’
‘They certainly will if lost games get rescheduled and played. So far no league or team officials have suggested publicly that they won’t if the schedule is ultimately reduced. But if the shutdown persists, references to paragraph 11 of the Uniform Player’s Contract are likely to become common. That’s the paragraph that covers national emergencies, “which may directly or indirectly affect the Player, Club or the League and subject also to the right of the Commissioner to suspend the operation of this contract during any national emergency during which Major League Baseball is not played.” President Trump’s declaration of a national state of emergency on Friday puts the clause in play.’
March 16, 2020 at 5:40 pm #124814MM3 wrote:
Without a doubt, scrub the interleague games. IIRC that eliminates 20 games.
With two 15-team leagues, this means at least two of the 30 teams will be idle every single day. How does one schedule three-game series in such an environment? And how would this shorten the season?
March 16, 2020 at 5:41 pm #124815A two to three week delay may be almost justifiable , but eight weeks is absolutely irrational and completely unnecessary. MLB is pandering to fanatical elements within the media and the sports establishment.
March 16, 2020 at 5:44 pm #124816shake said:
…eight weeks is absolutely irrational and completely unnecessary. MLB is pandering to fanatical elements within the media and the sports establishment.
You must have missed the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s announcement. Look back one page on this thread.
March 16, 2020 at 6:57 pm #124818With two 15-team leagues, this means at least two of the 30 teams will be idle every single day. How does one schedule three-game series in such an environment? And how would this shorten the season?
If there are no interleague games then only one team in each league is off everyday. As it is, not every team plays every day. Then they plug in KC as extra 2 game home and home series so that would mean 24 games would be deleted. Just trying to help with which games to do away with as it is obvious that there is no way to play 162 if you start late May or early June. Gotta have a few days for training.
March 16, 2020 at 9:13 pm #124822I’ll go NBA being the first but I think UFC Contender Series might get a jump early. I’ve already seen a ton of pre-recorded MMA content on television this past weekend and even a fight night with no fans in Brazil.
My guess is June 4th. That seems like an even 100 game season. I also think they’ll stick to primarily to division-League play with the 19 games per division opponent.
19×4=76
10×2 game series vs NL East and NL West. 5 home 2 games and 5 2 gamers on the road.
1 home and home game with KC
50 games with a 3 day break in the middle follow by the following 50.
March 17, 2020 at 6:25 am #124823Just a thought: Minor league players will have zero income since they are not paid for spring training. However, the teams incur expenses during minor league spring training such as food, coaching, other requirements. Why not take that money or the portion that will not be spent and give it to the minor leaguers. It may not be much but at least it will be something to help them out a bit. Actually,I think that folks like the DeWitts could make a significant contribution to keep their minor leaguers from leaving the game.
Oops, I should have put this on the minor league salary thread but I guess it as the virus that caused the problem so maybe here is okay.
March 17, 2020 at 8:37 am #124828MLB is supporting an advisory from the Centers for Disease Control to halt collections of large groups of people for the next eight weeks. Yet, Rob Manfred is still clinging to an unrealistic hope to play all 162 games of the regular season. (free) https://t.co/HbTntVQHoH pic.twitter.com/7Q7UpdwtOA
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) March 17, 2020
March 17, 2020 at 10:17 am #124852It is really difficult to turn on the news and see much light at the end of this tunnel. I understand that the media can tend to exaggerate things at times but if you believe most of the medical experts then it appears things are going to get much worse before they get better.
With schools closed indefinitely, bars and restaurants starting to be closed, and in some areas all non-emergency related citizens banned to their homes, I am seriously beginning to wonder if their will be ANY baseball played this year. We may be waiting until 2021 my friends.
March 17, 2020 at 10:43 am #124854The New York Yankees have informed their minor league players that another minor leaguer in the organization has tested positive for coronavirus, sources familiar with the message distributed to players tell ESPN.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) March 17, 2020
March 17, 2020 at 11:38 am #124860
stlcard25ParticipantIt is really difficult to turn on the news and see much light at the end of this tunnel. I understand that the media can tend to exaggerate things at times but if you believe most of the medical experts then it appears things are going to get much worse before they get better.
With schools closed indefinitely, bars and restaurants starting to be closed, and in some areas all non-emergency related citizens banned to their homes, I am seriously beginning to wonder if their will be ANY baseball played this year. We may be waiting until 2021 my friends.
That seems like it may be the case. My work has me sticking at home for two weeks and I wonder if it won’t end up being much longer than that.
March 17, 2020 at 11:51 am #124862My advice is to not turn the news on.
March 17, 2020 at 12:07 pm #12486614NyquisT
ParticipantI live in the area (metro-NYC) with the highest density of cases in the US. There are strict regulations…. so many businesses are closed…. unemployment offices are swamped…. it has really panicked so many…. with reason. The NYC mayor is not shy about closing things down, as is Cuomo. Playing baseball is not high on their priorities list. So MLB in this area might be off the table longer than other places.
In other parts of the States “19” seems less critical so folks there are more optimistic about getting going. I live about 7 miles from New Rochelle, NY which has the National Guard enforcing a quarantine in a 1 mile radius. From here I can’t even give a guess as to when we’ll hear “play ball”.
That’s my two cents from where I sit.
March 17, 2020 at 12:21 pm #124869You raise an interesting point I had not fully considered, NY. Perhaps differences in our views about the seriousness of the threat is in part due to where we live. We can only hope that the virus does not spread from the higher concentration areas to the lower ones. Depending on people behaving responsibly is a scary thought, though.
March 17, 2020 at 1:51 pm #124877The virus in China is not spreading like it was, less people infected, and so far it’s not spreading outside the Wuhan province where it all started. They are attributing their success to not letting people in or out of the Wuhan province during the outbreak. That suggests that we’re taking the correct action here in the USA.
. That suggests that we’re taking the correct action here in America.
March 17, 2020 at 2:55 pm #124881Does this ESPN guy have COVID19? Who knows – there aren’t enough testing kits available to know who does and doesn’t. Other countries are testing 10K+ a day and we’ve barely tested 15K since this started.
So, four days after I brought someone to a hospital that is now the Covid-19 hub for North Jersey, I've got symptoms. Sharing this because you're probably going to deal with this at some point and I figured I'd pass on what I'm learning. /1
— T.J. Quinn (@TJQuinnESPN) March 16, 2020
March 17, 2020 at 3:41 pm #1248854 Brooklyn Nets have tested positive.
Sources: Brooklyn tested the team upon returning from San Francisco and results came back today. Nets paid out of pocket to a private company to conduct tests. One player awoke with some aches today; rest have experienced no symptoms.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) March 17, 2020
March 17, 2020 at 3:48 pm #124887The last sentence is the scary part to me. Professional athletes are young and in tremendous shape. But even though they are not experiencing symptoms, they may be carrying the virus to others. Limited testing is a huge concern, it seems.
March 17, 2020 at 4:03 pm #124892Brian, I look at it this way. In baseball the best players make the major league teams (supposedly). You can’t have every player in every league yelling “Let me play, let me play.”
In virus testing you have to have a doctor say you need a test. You can’t just run into a place that is testing and demand a test. Testing supplies are becoming available much faster than last week. Other countries (only South Korea that I know of) were testing 20,000 per day but actually they were just swabbing 20,000 per day. They didn’t read the tests that fast. I do think the US is a smidgen bigger than South Korea.
If you want to read a real horror story, read about Iran. The leadership there is about to destroy an entire country for lack of taking very much affirmative action to stop the spread.
Please folks. Stay away from politics here. We want to keep this thread going with factual data where cited.
March 17, 2020 at 4:21 pm #124895More and more testing is starting to roll out, which is a good thing. We will see the number of documented cases rise because of the increase in testing but that is good because we will then have a better idea of where to deploy resources. So far we have been shooting in the dark.
March 18, 2020 at 11:28 am #12491114NyquisT
ParticipantI just stopped in to read what others are saying from different areas of the country.
Can we sort of report on certain areas and what is being experienced. Its not about baseball per se but it may help us guess when this season will start.
March 18, 2020 at 11:52 am #124912My guess for when the season starts is April 1, 2021.
March 18, 2020 at 12:51 pm #124913
stlcard25ParticipantHere in PA, we have various shutdown measures. I have not heard of any cases confirmed in a county around mine, although a student in the next county (Erie County) home in NY was confirmed to have it yesterday. It’s probably only a matter of time. I’m working from home and besides church, am almost always “socially distanced.” There was some panic buying over the weekend that seems to have slowed a bit this week. Most stores except Walmart seem to have milk, bread, toilet paper, etc again.
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