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March 23, 2020 at 5:36 pm #125231
I am starting to think that we may not see baseball at all this year.
March 23, 2020 at 6:32 pm #125232Understanding where Tommy Pham came from helps to understand
why he does what he does and says what he says.March 24, 2020 at 8:00 am #125249I doubt the second spring training will be a month long. Owners will be anxious to get revenue flowing as quickly as possible. I bet what happens is closer to Mo’s earlier estimate of two weeks. One possible way to accelerate the start is to allow larger rosters until pitchers are ramped back up. That might help with players with injury concerns about pushing too hard too fast.
Toronto Blue Jays President Mark Shapiro floated the idea of a second MLB spring training before the resumption of a regular season down the line. #MLB #sportsbiz https://t.co/crw5szz0h9
— Ballpark Digest (@ballparkdigest) March 24, 2020
March 24, 2020 at 8:26 am #125252Interesting to see how different players from Las Vegas are reacting to the current crisis…
Dexter Fowler is supporting a COVID-19 emergency food fund in Las Vegas by matching every dollar donated through the link below. #STLCards #MLB https://t.co/O72BupWzeW
— Anne Rogers (@anne__rogers) March 24, 2020
March 24, 2020 at 9:08 am #125259I am starting to think that we may not see baseball at all this year.
I have had that feeling for awhile now. I think we are looking at 2021.
March 24, 2020 at 11:27 am #12526614NyquisT
ParticipantI am starting to think that we may not see baseball at all this year.
I think that I can safely say that there won’t be any baseball in New York this season. I think that the NFL season may be in jeopardy as this cursed virus spreads. Where I live the cases have increased 12 times the number of just one week ago. I hope that what is learned about the virus in NY will reduce its spread in other areas.
The way things are right now, my wife and I plan to stay in our house for another 2/3 months. Its very serious around here. 60% of the cases in the U.S. are in the metro NYC area. I’m I worried about my life? You can bet your a** I am.
March 24, 2020 at 5:33 pm #125276Trump would love the country to begin it’s way back by Easter. I think he’s blowing smoke a bit but I’d say if they want anything but 100 game season they need to get cracking no later than Mother’s Day week on ST.
Not going to lie. NY is bad. California has a shade over 2,100 positive test. Illinois over 1,500 out of 11K+ tested. That’s about a 13% or so clip.
March 24, 2020 at 7:01 pm #125279Tough to say right now. My wife and I are on the work-from-home plan. We had been looking at houses with a plan to possibly move in the next year or so, but have put that off indefinitely. Our house is paid off and we are quite comfortable here, so we are counting our blessings and if the time comes for re-location that will be fine, if not that is good as well.
If I recall correctly, the last time a baseball season was shortened due to a national crisis was 1918 and 1919. There has been some limited downtime during other events, like the MLK assassination and the 9/11 attack. But as far as closing the doors, the 1918 season ended early and I think 1919 started later than normal with about 140 games played.
March 24, 2020 at 11:13 pm #125280In the state of New York as of today 99.89% of the population does not have Covid 19.
March 25, 2020 at 8:01 am #125283Nice to see Dexter give back.
March 25, 2020 at 8:38 am #125293A lot of good information here on many fronts as baseball works on resumption plans.
The latest on the state of MLB, packed with news, including:
– MLB/MLBPA deal coming together
– Teams pledging to pay employees
– Potential start dates
– Minor league pay
– Doubleheaders galore
– Neutral-site playoff potentialMuch more with @kileymcd: https://t.co/vjZAqKgJ7J
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) March 25, 2020
March 25, 2020 at 12:00 pm #125307Booyah said:
Not going to lie. NY is bad. California has a shade over 2,100 positive test. Illinois over 1,500 out of 11K+ tested. That’s about a 13% or so clip.
Cases in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida and Michigan are also increasing significantly. We aren’t even close to the peak levels and there will surely be multiple waves. Another thing is don’t expect the warm weather to have much effect. Just take a look at what’s going on in Philippines, Singapore, and Hong Kong.
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March 25, 2020 at 1:10 pm #125310Let me count the many ways I hate his idea. What I do understand is his motivation. If his clients play a full season, they will make a full season of pay – and so will Scotty get his full cut.
Scott Boras pitches 162-game MLB schedule with a World Series game on Christmashttps://t.co/O1kkN1pqf6
— L.A. Times Sports (@latimessports) March 25, 2020
March 25, 2020 at 1:29 pm #125311Christmas is far too late to have a championship and you would be competing with all the other major sports as well.
March 25, 2020 at 1:31 pm #125312Speaking of the peak I mentioned earlier, we aren’t even close:
The US is now on pace to have the worst coronavirus outbreak anywhere… pic.twitter.com/GgtcF4788J
— Mark MacKinnon (@markmackinnon) March 25, 2020
March 25, 2020 at 1:37 pm #125314I am in agreement that a 162 game season and post-season in December is ridiculous. One of the many issue is the off season, as you would only be down a couple of months before getting ready for 2021.
MLB needs to bite the bullet like the rest of us and not focus on playing 162 games. It is not always about money, although trying to persuade multi-million and billionaires that is not easy.
My plan would be that if a season of at least 81 games is played, players accrue a full season worth of time towards free agency and pension. However, I would prorate salaries based on games played since the clubs are going to earn revenue based on games. Although I do not know how the television packages are structured, so that could impact player compensation.
March 25, 2020 at 2:02 pm #125315Boras loves to see his own smiling face on the cover of anything he can get it on.
March 25, 2020 at 2:09 pm #125316Speaking of the peak I mentioned earlier, we aren’t even close:
The chart you showed is misleading for a number of reasons. First, cases per capita is a far better way to judge these things. Second, the US having more confirmed cases in no way indicates that the virus is more severe here or that new infections are exploding. We are simply testing far more people (and will be testing far more people than any other country if we aren’t already). That is not to say that this country has done better than anyone else; only that the data this person is using has inherent flaws that can cause (or do show the author’s) panic.
I appreciate that my state lists both positive tests as well as overall tests in their daily report so that people can get a feel for what is really going on rather than panicking because we have a few hundred more cases.
March 25, 2020 at 2:48 pm #125318Nightengale’s version of the negotiations is fairly optimistic.
MLB and players’ union moving closer to agreement; season could extend into late November https://t.co/9RnrX3bS6R
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) March 25, 2020
March 25, 2020 at 3:48 pm #125320So we can expect at least a 100 games of baseball this year if we’re lucky.
I think the idea of picking up where the schedule left off is lazy thinking.
And naturally Manfred gets to unveil his expanded format but I don’t buy an expanded playoff making up for a good chunk of lost revenue. You gonna have 16 teams in your playoff? lol
The players should get full 162 games of credit for the season.
March 25, 2020 at 8:10 pm #125325The chart you showed is misleading for a number of reasons. First, cases per capita is a far better way to judge these things.
The “per capita” point is very important to note. As stlcard25 said, the chart is not normalized in this regard. The total number of positive cases for the top seven nations listed on that chart (based on cases per million of population) is as follows. I just pulled these numbers off worldometers.
Italy: 1,230
Spain: 1,059
Germany: 455
France: 387
Iran: 322
USA: 199
China: 56Also, the total deaths per million of population is as follows:
Italy: 124
Spain: 78
Germany: 2
France: 20
Iran: 25
USA: 3
China: 2Of course, the USA is not as far along as the other nations in flattening the curve.
As for the point on amount of testing, yes there is large variation there. And who knows how accurate some if this data is day to day, and depending on where it comes from.
March 25, 2020 at 10:20 pm #125330Rob Manfred, asked on ESPN what he _hopes_ could happen from here: “My optimistic outlook is that at some point in May we’ll be gearing back up. We’ll have to make a determination depending on what the precise date is as to how much of a preparation period we need."
— Evan Drellich (@EvanDrellich) March 26, 2020
March 26, 2020 at 12:58 am #125334It seems New York and Washington states have a tremendous amount of Coronavirus cases. I understand New York being more vulnerable due to population density of New York City, but can’t quite understand why Washington has the 2nd most deaths in the U.S.A. Does Seattle’s population have most of the cases?
March 26, 2020 at 1:33 am #125335King County (includes Seattle) has approx half of Washington’s cases and approx 3/4 of their deaths. King County is the 12th highest populated county in the US. The first case in the US was a passenger who came into the Seattle airport from Wuhan. Next, numerous people at the nursing home near Seattle got infected. This was the storm of events that led to the crisis there, prior to all the emphasis on hand washing, sanitizing, social distancing, business closures, etc.
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