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Right now if you look at what could be our outfield using OPS+ numbers:
Ty O’Neill – 289
Adolis Garcia – 163
Randy Arozarena – 92Our outfield so far, for the most part:
Brendan Donovan – 187
Victor Scott – (12) (that is “minus 12”)
Jordan Walker – 44
Alec Burleson – 29And Mo wonders why he got booed opening day. He is looking a bit like Bing Devine. Bing did some great things the first half of his career, but then lost the magic touch – some of that was pressure from the boss. Mo’s performance has slipped a lot from what we came to expect for many years.
And don’t forget Tolan and McBride…
…not to mention Jose Cruz, sort of the “Adolis Garcia” of the ’70s.
Only 16 ABs, but Richie Palacios is at 126 OPS+. That’s the guy I would have kept and dealt Burleson, but Tampa probably wanted the guy that was more athletic. Tampa gets a lot out of the players they have. It’s almost like if they propose a deal to you, you know you are going to get the short end of the transaction, so don’t do it.
Right now, there’s no place for him
when Noot, Carlson, and Edman come back. And if they all stay healthy, Burleson will probably spend the remainder of 2024 at Memphis.With his swing, I can’t understand why he can’t seem to connect for more home runs. Right now, he seems best suited for a pinch hitting role. If he doesn’t get squeezed by roster reality when Nootbaar, Edman and Carlson return..
Perhaps you could understand better if you would actually listen to and engage in good faith with the many thoughtful, substantive responses/contributions that have answered your question(s) with a mountain of supporting analysis, data, and evidence.
For years, baseball talk has involved statistics. Musial lifetime average of .331. Aaron’s 715. It has now evolved into fairly sophisticated measurements that are used by fans to evaluate players. It’s a world now where fans back up their thoughts about a player with facts. For instance, Scott’s slash line right now of .083/.154/.139/.233 can be used to suggest that he probably should spend some time at AAA. The same thing goes for Burleson. His slash line is .172/.200/.297/.407. That means he’s not pulling his weight and probably needs to be replaced for now.
Probably replaced?
Last week. Last season.A 250+lb slap hitter who can’t run, can’t field, can’t hit for average, can’t touch LHP, can’t hit with RISP, and has no trade value doesn’t belong on a team trying (pretending) to compete.
BOCfan, it probably makes you and some other Burleson critics wonder what the Cardinals see in Burleson. That keeps him in the lineup so regularly. Personally, he doesn’t look overmatched. But I’m disappointed in his lack of home run power. Time for he, Arenado and Walker to show some HR production.
The Cards “confidence” in Burly mostly has to do with being literally 5 outfielders short of where the were last year. They have nowhere else to go. His recent opportunities result from desperation rather than from achievement or potential.
Traded: O’Neill, Palacios
Injured 2024: Edman, Carlson, NootbarI sincerely hope he breaks out.Drives the ball. But nothing indicates he will.
When all the fine outfielders return. Will the Cardinals be more inclined to send Burleson down or trade him? His trade value may have increased a little lately.
The next move is likely Pages back to Memphis assuming Contreras will soon be able to catch again.
I still don’t get why trades keep coming up. I am not going to explain again why that is very unlikely.
Brian, trades might be unlikely, right now. But why not try to help the team if you can? Especially, if you have an overabundance at certain positions. It just seems to make sense.
It’s nice to see Burleson showing some progress. Hope he can continue. Now, it’s time for Saggese to blossom. Eventually, Burleson, Donovan and Saggese in the lineup, together, might be fun. Those three are pure hitters. Despite what any current stats say.
Other than the fact they both bat left-handed, Burleson and Donovan have almost nothing in common as hitters.
I suppose if one strained to find a similarity, one could say that neither hits for a lot of power–of course, the problem there is one is a versatile utility infielder and the other is a bat-only DH.
“Other than the fact they both bat left-handed, Burleson and Donovan have almost nothing in common as hitters’. Another similarity that you overlooked. Both Donovan and Burleson are fairly hard to strike out. Agree or disaggree? Can that be said for some other current, more highly acclaimed, Cardinals players?
*Sigh* We’ve already covered this ground several times before–a low K% in the abstract isn’t very informative without greater context as to how a player is achieving it and what he is giving up (trading off) elsewhere in his game. A low K% with a low BB% and low OBP isn’t impressive, but a low K% with a high BB% and OBP is. One is not like the other. Yadier Molina had a career 10.8% K-rate–was he a “fabulous” hitter, in your parlance? The objective of the game is to maximize production and minimize outs; it is not to minimize one particular type of out at the expense of everything else.
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