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April 6, 2024 at 7:01 pm #246879
KBC, that’s comical. Jim Edmonds sees Burleson’s hitting ability. He’s said it before. Plain and simple. I choose to value his and other professional baseball people’s take on Burleson. Rather than cynical massage board poster’s take.
April 6, 2024 at 7:17 pm #246881Ricky Horton and Jim Edmonds are probably announcers instead of scouts or coaches for a reason. When Burleson’s replacement come off the IL or is brought up from the minors shortly, they will saw that guy is awesome too.
As previously stated both are paid by the Cards and not critical of players or management.
April 6, 2024 at 7:34 pm #246885Mr Shady. Are you simply incapable of admitting you were wrong about Burleson?
It’s not so hard. The truth will set you free!
April 6, 2024 at 7:37 pm #246886Haha!…That sounds like something Al would say, KCB.
April 6, 2024 at 7:38 pm #246887AdM, I believe I know you from the past, Thankfully, you are more civil here thanks to Brian. Let’s stop the trivial bantering, for now. Let’s see how this Burleson thing plays out when Nootbaar, Carlson and Edman return, OK?
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April 6, 2024 at 9:25 pm #246900STOP with the talk about other forums. We don’t care who knows who and who carries grudges. WE DON’T CARE!
Why do I have to keep telling you people the same things over and over?
No personal comments.
No baiting.
No whining.It isn’t hard for the regulars here to follow the rules, but you new guys just can’t seem to help yourselves…
April 7, 2024 at 12:49 pm #246936bccran
ParticipantFor some time now, fans have been hoping for a good LH bat. We now have Nootbaar, Gorman, and Burleson as possibles. Wouldn’t it be great if they all came through and were consistent threats for years to come.
April 7, 2024 at 12:59 pm #246939Yes. But history says NO.
I would be glad for 1.
April 7, 2024 at 1:54 pm #246965bccran
ParticipantGorman led the team in home runs last year, and Nootbaar brings nice energy plus an OPS of .780 in 2023. There’s some potential there for long term production.
April 7, 2024 at 3:00 pm #246996Jim Edmonds can (and does) talk until he’s blue in the face, but that doesn’t change the fact that Burleson has been a complete failure as a hitter at the MLB level. It’s just a fact. His stat line doesn’t lie or lean into hyperbole. Your stat line is what you are.
April 7, 2024 at 3:35 pm #247012Another stellar day at the dish for our DH.
Awful.
April 7, 2024 at 4:06 pm #247015I’m thinking you relentless Burleson critics cheered for that spectacular catch the Miami LFer made to rob Burleson. It was another line drive against a lefty pitcher.
April 7, 2024 at 4:09 pm #247016^^^^
There is no doubt in my mind that Burleson is the best .179 hitter in MLB! Might be too soon for work to begin on his HOF Bust, but I’m good with measuring him for his Red Jacket.
April 7, 2024 at 4:12 pm #247017AdM, be honest, were you elated that Burleson got robbed on that sinking liner to LF? I’m pretty sure I know where your allegiance was.
April 7, 2024 at 4:41 pm #247026RBK
Participant* 44.7% Chase Rate.
* 5.6% Barrel Rate.
* 3.4 P/PA.
* 3.3% BB-rate.
* .200 OBP.The issues are exactly the same as in the prior two years: poor plate discipline, swinging at bad pitches, quick ABs, weak contact, poor power. They’re all related. The only difference is now he’s striking out more (27% K-rate).
Many of us told you to focus on process rather than fawning over SSS spring training stats.
April 7, 2024 at 4:46 pm #247028I don’t care what any of the amateur message board critics claim with their stats. I still see outstanding potential in Burleson’s hitting ability. And I’m thinking the Cardinals do, too. In fairness, I’m disappointed in Burleson’s power production. But there hasn’t exactly been much power, so far this season, from Arenado and Walker either.
April 7, 2024 at 4:59 pm #247030^^^^
They’re not OUR stats.
They’re Burleson’s stats.
His numbers are his numbers.We’re all rooting for him to succeed! We’d all love it if he became half the hitter you seem to think he is. But neither you nor Burleson can run away from his dismal record of hitting! He is what the numbers say he is, good or bad, same as every other player in MLB.
It’s certainly not personal. It’s just that he hits like Dal Maxvill, runs like Yadi Molina, and plays defense like Chris Duncan. Not good!
April 7, 2024 at 5:05 pm #247033RBK
Participant.232/.289/.362/.651
80 OPS+
81 wRC+
-1.0/-0.7 fWAR/bWAR
April 7, 2024 at 5:12 pm #247034^^^^^
But what about Jim Edmonds and his praise?
April 7, 2024 at 5:14 pm #247035AdM, “We’re all rooting for him to succeed!” You can’t BS a BSer. You’d rather feel you are right than for Burly to succeed. It’s kind of sad to have that mindset.
April 7, 2024 at 5:19 pm #247036Of course, we’re rooting for success. He’s a Cardinal! That’s not disputable. My team is better if all the young players have success.
However, we’re not blind homers. If a guy stinks, he stinks. We don’t like it, but we can’t pretend a pile of poop is Grandma’s Apple Pie. It doesn’t work that way.
April 7, 2024 at 6:19 pm #247043AdM, so you actually feel Burleson looks lost and overmatched at the plate? If so, why don’t the Cardinals seem to see that? I’ll be surprised if Burleson isn’t in the lineup at DH the next two games against RHP starters.
April 7, 2024 at 6:48 pm #247046We’ll have to see.
April 7, 2024 at 7:01 pm #247047I don’t think Burleson has looked what I’d term as “overmatched” in his 30 or so PA’s ths season. I’ll also say that I’ve seen him take what I would describe as several nice looking rips in quite a few of his AB’s. The guy looks like he may eventually figure out Big League pitching and demonstrate that he can hit it. However the fact remains that he’s failed to generate hardly any significant offensive production at all during the early part of the season. Net bottom line is that he’s failed to perform during his best opportunity to do so at the Big League level.
April 7, 2024 at 7:02 pm #247048I’m not thrilled by Burleson’s lack of production. With his swing, I can’t understand why he can’t seem to connect for more home runs. Right now, he seems best suited for a pinch hitting role. If he doesn’t get squeezed by roster reality when Nootbaar, Edman and Carlson return..
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