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April 4, 2024 at 7:02 pm #246591
bccran…He could still be the “one out guy” if he enters the game with 2 outs in the inning and retires the first batter he faces for the 3rd out. In that case he wouldn’t be required to begin the following half inning and would only face one batter. But for all intents and purposes the days of the classic example of “loogy” are in the past. That’s a shame.
April 4, 2024 at 7:47 pm #246598bccran
ParticipantSure is nice to see good defense.
April 4, 2024 at 7:49 pm #246599bccran
ParticipantThanks, 1TD. Isn’t there still a good role for a loogy if several left handed hitters in a row are coming up for the other team in a tight game?
April 4, 2024 at 7:59 pm #246600The Cardinals swapped Andy Van Slyke for Tony Pena in April.
Technically this is true, but similar to how a dollar in 1987 is not the same as a dollar today, this was not an in-season trade.
The trade occurred on April 1, and the season started April 7. So this would be consistent with a mid-to-third week of March trade today.
April 4, 2024 at 8:27 pm #246604Yeah, I’d say so bc, but the “lefty one out guy” is for the most part a thing of the past.
April 4, 2024 at 9:21 pm #246611RBK
ParticipantShady wrote:
“Burleson dissenters. I’d be more concerned about the more highly acclaimed players’ struggles, right now. Arenado, Walker and Gorman.”Did you see Arenado had 3 hits and an RBI, and Gorman had a big double, a BB, and 2 RBI today? Oh, and Winn and Herrera had 2 hits apiece and 3 RBI. Just wanted to make sure you didn’t miss those performances by the “highly acclaimed players” that we’re all supposed to be “more concerned about” amidst all the fanfare over Burleson’s lone single.
April 4, 2024 at 9:31 pm #246612Goldschmidt and Arenado are both players that have suffered a similar fate in StL. as that of Matt Holliday…None of those 3 players are Albert Pujols.
April 5, 2024 at 4:31 am #246614Currently, the biggest thing Burly has going for him is Siani’s bat.
April 5, 2024 at 8:00 am #2466241Tough> great point.
Everyone expects every star to hit like Albert. It’s not possible. There’s only one Albert!
April 5, 2024 at 8:02 am #246625RBK> but that sure was a special lone single! I’m willing to watch Burleson go 0-20 in anticipation of his next roller through the infield! He’s that special.
April 5, 2024 at 9:42 am #246628bccran
ParticipantWe need both Gorman and Burleson to produce from the left side. Nootbaar too when he comes back.
April 5, 2024 at 10:27 am #246634^^^^
When Noot comes back, do Cards send Siani or AB down? Possibly Scott?
I’m old school. I’d hate to sacrifice elite defense for a .190 hitter. But what do I know?
April 5, 2024 at 10:33 am #246637I wish they would keep Siani. I know his bat isn’t much but his glove work should not be underestimated. Having someone of that defensive caliber to help finish out games is invaluable.
April 5, 2024 at 10:36 am #246638Noot’s return will not diminish the need for a late inning defensive replacement for Walker.
April 5, 2024 at 10:54 am #246640AdM, 106+ mph Burleson scorcher ain’t a “roller”. You’re funny.
April 5, 2024 at 11:08 am #246641bccran
ParticipantWhen Noot comes up, the last to come up will probably be the first to go down. But if they want to keep Scott’s speed on the roster, Burleson could very well be the one to go down.
April 5, 2024 at 11:30 am #246643Why does Burleson get so many ABs? Could it be that the Cardinals organization really sees him as a talented hitter?
April 5, 2024 at 11:45 am #246644^^^^
I don’t know, but I’m going to guess the Cards keep Burleson & his .190 bat in the lineup due to injuries to:
Edman
Carlson
Noot
Carpenter
Donovan
ContrerasBut again, I could be wrong and maybe Oli just loves .190 singles hitters?
What are your thoughts, Mr Shady?
April 5, 2024 at 11:47 am #246645AdM, I feel you are underestimating the respect the Cardinals have for Burleson’s hitting ability. He got plenty of ABs even when most of the team was healthy.
April 5, 2024 at 11:53 am #246648For the record:
Scott is 3-for-30 (.100) with 30.3% K rate and 45% fly ball rate. He has two walks and one stolen base. His total contribution, including his elite defense, is -0.3 bWAR.
He was brought up before he was ready and it shows. He needs to gain Triple-A experience. Nothing bad or wrong about that.
April 5, 2024 at 12:07 pm #246651I really like Scott but we all know he needs to play every day at AAA this season.
Siani probably is who he is at this point but when Carlson, Nootbar, and Edman all return there will be no room at the inn.
Burleson is probably back to AAA and then traded.
The line up should be fine as the walking wounded return to action.
It’s a couple more starting pitchers at the deadline we need to be angling for because we are still a few bricks shy of a load there.
April 5, 2024 at 12:11 pm #246653I like what I see of Victor Scott, but he needs to play every day for Memphis right now. His days will come.
What will be interesting is to see if Carlson can leverage his good late Spring work and do well once he is back.
April 5, 2024 at 12:28 pm #246655Because of the roster and options situations, Burleson may be sent down. However, it’s obvious to me how much Oli respects Burleson’s hitting ability. If not as the DH vs RHP. As a lefty bat pinch hitter.
April 5, 2024 at 1:11 pm #246661RBK
ParticipantAdM, I feel you are underestimating the respect the Cardinals have for Burleson’s hitting ability. He got plenty of ABs even when most of the team was healthy.
And what has he done/produced in those “plenty of ABs?”
If “he got plenty of ABs,” why do you continue to studiously ignore (and avoid discussing) his actual results?
April 5, 2024 at 1:18 pm #246663If he respects “Burly” it’s on a personal level. If he reads the metrics on his MLB performance, he would not even be on the bench.
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