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  • #195188
    Oliver
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    It looks more like a donkey but your point is well taken.

    #195190
    bccran
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    Very nice post, gscottar. Judgmental, but rather cute.

    #195191
    bccran
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    Here’s the point, gscottar –

    O’Neill – .222/.287/.343/.630
    Carlson – .237/.308/.392/.700
    Nootbaar – .239/.335/.428/.763
    Dickerson – .233/.278/.363/.641
    Yepez – .254/.298/.459/.758
    Capel – .176/.211/.353/.563

    Your outfield as it stands right now.

    Is that beating a horse? Is that a point well taken,
    Oliver?

    #195194
    gscottar
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    O’Neill – .222/.287/.343/.630
    Carlson – .237/.308/.392/.700
    Nootbaar – .239/.335/.428/.763
    Dickerson – .233/.278/.363/.641

    So which of these four guys are the Cardinals going to remove from the active roster to promote Burleson now?

    It isn’t going to be O’Neill or Carlson for sure.

    Nootbaar has been red hot. The last 14 days: .324/.429/.568/.996
    Dickerson is being paid $5M and hot lately. The last 28 days: .355/.364//.516/.880

    I could see Burleson as a September callup.

    #195196
    bccran
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    I agree about September. Unless they send TON down to work on his swing and plate discipline.

    #195197
    Brian Walton
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    I agree with your posts gscottar, except your last point. As I said back on page whatever of this going nowhere saga, the Cards can only add two players in September and chances are good they will be pitchers. And if they do add a hitter, it will probably be someone like Yepez with MLB experience. Sorry for being repetitive.

    #195200
    bccran
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    You know, Brian, when a poster posts on here they are just trying to engage in baseball conversation. If it results in a “going nowhere saga” that’s very disconcerting and sad. So sorry for the disruptive incidences this has caused. Will try to be more original, constructive, intellectual, and informative, like telling you what I’m going to have for din-din every night.

    #195202
    Brian Walton
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    Speaking of dinner, it seems to be getting hot in the kitchen… 😉

    #195209
    bccran
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    No, Brian, it’s selective chastisement that becomes redundant. It better defines a going nowhere saga.

    #195213
    Brian Walton
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    Perhaps one should not take personally a general comment about the direction of a thread.

    #195215
    Brian Walton
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    Per my point from earlier, the most immediate issue is what do to with Yepez. (Burleson was not mentioned in this article.)

    #195218
    bccran
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    Perhaps one should be more understanding, patient, and less critical.

    As far as Yepez, he deserves to be in the lineup, but mainly as a DH.
    With Bader gone, the 5 outfielders should probably be Carlson,
    O’Neill, Nootbaar, Dickerson, and Burleson. Don’t most teams carry 5 outfielders?

    #195221
    Brian Walton
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    I have been trying to explain this. Let me try again with all the names and the numbers. Rosters are 26 players. 13 are pitchers. With a DH, nine of the 13 position players are starters. That leaves a four-man bench.

    Assuming Yepez is back, the incumbents don’t even fit, let alone the proposed addition of Burleson.

    For example:
    OF starters: O’Neill, Carlson, Nootbaar
    DH: Yepez
    IF: Goldy, Edman, DeJong, Arenado
    C: Yadi
    Bench: Knizner, Albert, Gorman, Dickerson

    No room for Donovan and anyone else…

    This isn’t a vendetta against Burleson.

    #195224
    jj-cf-stl
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    Donovan isn’t playing much. I could see the FO sending him down for regular playing time.

    I think it should be O’Neill demoted to work on making contact. Dickerson fills a OF role and Yepez a DH role.

    Dickerson for O’Neill hurts the D but Yepez bat more than makes up for Tyler’s struggles at the plate.

    #195225
    Brian Walton
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    Perhaps, jj, but Donovan’s likely long-term role will be coming off the bench, not as an every-day starter. He’d better get used to being productive even with irregular playing time.

    #195227
    Brian Walton
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    I don’t think O’Neill is close to being sent down despite not hitting well recently. In his 18 games since coming off the IL, he does have two homers, 10 RBI and 11 runs scored, all same as Carlson during that time.

    #195228
    jj-cf-stl
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    I hope the FO feels that way about Donovan too.

    #195230
    bccran
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    If DeJong can be sent down, why can’t O’Neill, Donovan, Nootbaar, or Dickerson if they don’t produce?

    #195234
    Brian Walton
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    Nootbaar is one of the hotter hitters on the team. So is Dickerson. Also, because of his MLB service time, Dickerson cannot be sent to the minors without his consent. O’Neill was eighth in the MVP vote last year and is in just his 19th game since coming off the IL.

    As I said already, Donovan is most likely to draw the short straw for Yepez, but over the last month, his OPS is right at .700 – not great, but not terrible, either.

    P.S. DeJong was given over a month before being sent down despite numbers that were far, far worse than any of the players mentioned in this discussion. An OPS of .417 to be precise, which was the worst in all of MLB at the time.

    #195248
    jj-cf-stl
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    I’ll give the Cardinals credit for giving O’Neill plenty of playing time since returning, but that .571 ops is the worst on the active roster during those 18 games.
    We all need him to get hot, but how is that best accomplished? Do you let O’Neill keep starting and assign Yepez to Memphis?

    #195250
    bccran
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    The goal is to have the very best 13 position players that you can on your roster. If you think all 13 plus Yepez are better than Burleson would be, than you have made your case.

    #195258
    Brian Walton
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    Let’s be realistic. The goal is to have the best 13 players that fit within financial and roster constraints.

    You dodge the point by continuing to be vague. How about being specific? Who would you send down? What would your roster look like?

    #195288
    forsch31
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    Brian, there is not only how a poster would make things work but how the Cardinals are likely to make it work. We can think the moving of the chairs is easy but the Cardinals are still reluctant to just lose someone from the roster because Burleson needs a look in the majors.

    #195304
    bccran
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    The skew is because of Albert and the new NL DH rule. Normal configuration would be 2 catchers, 7 infielders, and 5 outfielders. With Albert, there are 8 infielders and only 4 outfielders. With 9 hitters in the everyday lineup. To make a place for Burly, you would have to send down one of the infielders (probably Donovan) and opt for Burly over Yepez. In actuality, Albert and Yepez are a bit redundant.
    So it would boil down to a choice of Donovan, Yepez, or Burleson for that 13th slot. But if Nootbaar reverts to the very average Nootbaar who came through the minors, I’d replace him with Burly quickly.

    #195310
    forsch31
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    Bc, who will the Cardinals (Mo/Girsch) jettison off the 40-man roster to bring up Burleson?

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