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March 14, 2023 at 12:29 pm #214011
DeJong was scratched with lower back tightness. Winn started at short instead.
March 14, 2023 at 3:03 pm #214019Good game Mr. Gorman
March 14, 2023 at 3:08 pm #214020It looks like Woody stunk it up. Wasn’t it me that was saying he’s not ready for prime time?
March 14, 2023 at 3:49 pm #214023Nine innings played, four safe hits recorded. Yeah, there were some walks, good eye, good eye. But there were still 27 outs recorded. That’s a .148 BA for the game.
Might not be all that hard for Jordan Walker to crack the opening day roster.
March 14, 2023 at 3:55 pm #214024Might not be all that hard for Jordan Walker to crack the opening day roster.
Yeah, Carlson and Burleson are hitting under .200 and Gomez is not making much noise.
March 14, 2023 at 4:32 pm #214025
That’s a .148 BA for the game.
Oops, actually the BA for today’s game was .133. lol. Remember last season? We’d get 10 or 11 hits against a #4 starter. But throw a good arm at us (pun intended) and we get just a few hits. Miles Mikolas should have been a 20 game winner last season. Actual result: 12 wins
March 14, 2023 at 4:44 pm #214027There isn’t any good reason to expect we would show well vs the reigning champions who won 106 games last year, even with ST lineups going at it.
March 14, 2023 at 4:55 pm #214028Yeah, not only just 12 wins Lou, but 12-13 with a real nice 3.29 ERA in over 200 IP. A Big League pitcher shouldn’t have to shine his hitters cleats to compel them to push a few runs across.
March 15, 2023 at 7:41 am #214036Today's lineup for the trip to Port St. Lucie pic.twitter.com/FK0Cg5WY0D
— Lynn Worthy (@LWorthySports) March 15, 2023
March 15, 2023 at 4:09 pm #214058Today’s box score not real exciting, but looked like an all around good game. RBIs by Carlson, Yepez, Kramer Robertson and V. Scott. Wynn struck out 3 times. Verhagen gave up 2 hits, including a homer in an inning and WRod walked a couple. Nice 4-1 win.
March 15, 2023 at 7:50 pm #214069Connor Thomas finally had a good spring outing, too.
5 IP, 2 H, 0 BB, 2 SO. W-Rod gave up 2 BB, but also got 2 SO, to get himself out of the inning.March 16, 2023 at 7:50 am #214100Today's lineup against the Astros pic.twitter.com/riO1THouwy
— Lynn Worthy (@LWorthySports) March 16, 2023
March 16, 2023 at 7:57 am #214101I don’t want to read a lot into one spring lineup, but Donovan started six games at short last season. With DeJong hurt, they may be getting him ready to back up Edman. Of course, they also have Gorman for second.
March 16, 2023 at 11:36 am #214111Reminder…
Today opens a streak of 11 straight #stlcards spring training games available for streaming. Today's game and seven others will be on @BallySportsMW. The other three telecasts originate with the opponent and will be viewable via https://t.co/EM2li84mWI. https://t.co/uoH4xRfOvI pic.twitter.com/mQ4dj77K6S
— Brian Walton (@B_Walton) March 16, 2023
March 16, 2023 at 5:25 pm #214120It looks like Jack allowed a lot of traffic on the bases, but I didn’t see the game, just his pitching line.
As to the lineup, I notice Walker hasn’t been in RF much or at all lately. It’s not as though there is a pressing reason to see Church in RF or anything like that. I wonder what exactly the reason he played RF a lot early on was. And has whatever they were thinking about a potential OF alignment now changed? I guess we will see what happens when everyone is back, but I am guessing Walker will continue in LF and O’Neill will see significant time in CF. Which raises the question of why Carlson is not getting maximum reps in CF while O’Neill has been gone? Its not hugely important to see Pinder out there. The OF has been full of surprises.
Neither Carlson nor DeJong strike me as guys who think they have to make the team out of camp. Paul might figure he’s out of options and BDW isn’t going to flush the $9M quite yet. I don’t know what Carlson is thinking. If he thinks he’s dinged up he ought to miraculously cure himself pretty quick.
March 16, 2023 at 7:51 pm #214123I agree with that mindset, Bling, in the sense that I’d be highly surprised if both of their names aren’t listed on the 26 man on opening day. I don’t at all know who’d be interested, but at this juncture I have to believe that the Cardinals would be willing to take a pretty good hit if it involved a suitor for DeJong absorbing a nominal portion of the blow. Carlson’s probably okay for well into the first month or two of the regular season, but could obviously suffer diminished playing time and possibly be entirly eclipsed by his replacement if he tanks into the mid portion of May. I thought it was silly for the Cardinal bosses to proclaim Dylan as the de jure CF’er after the Bader trade, so maybe the competition will spark a fire.
March 16, 2023 at 8:39 pm #214126I am a little dissapointed that the Cardinals have not used the absence of players to the world classic to give some of their top prospects more exposure. Instead we are getting a steady diet of Mo’s Misfits (Players who have never been good and players who may have been pretty good once but coming off a bad year.) And very unlikely to do better with the Cardinals.
What would be wrong with Graceffo or McGreevry stretching out with multiple innings in a game. But we are getting Packy Naughton and VerHagen on a regular basis.
March 16, 2023 at 10:21 pm #214127How can anyone not like Packy? I mean, he’s 0-6 with an ERA well north of 5.00 for his career in a little shy of 55 innings of work, so you can be reasonably certain you’ll see an additional 75 to 100 IP’ed out of Packy before the Redbirds cut bait…VerHagen’s the type of bargain the Cardinals like because they can shut him down due to a sudden malady anytime he gets blistered and only have to pay him about $5M ’til the end of ’23.
March 17, 2023 at 5:05 am #214128Verhagen has some history of looking good in AAA and looked sort of ok for the Canned Hams, more so in 2020 than 2021. Packy has been sort of useful filling in around the edges when guys can’t answer the bell. I wonder if the idea is we will keep one or the other.
March 17, 2023 at 7:38 am #214131Packy and VerHagen are on the bubble for making the team. Graceffo and McGreevy are not. IMO, the prospects are better served by getting into a full starters routine, which is available to them now that minor league games have started. We are down to the last two weeks of camp and the WBC will be over in four days, so it is time to focus on getting everyone ready for Opening Day.
March 17, 2023 at 8:21 am #214136Contreras at DH and Mercado in CF today against the Marlins
Steven Matz makes the start. pic.twitter.com/2weh2wrL3b— Lynn Worthy (@LWorthySports) March 17, 2023
March 17, 2023 at 11:08 am #214144TheBeave
ParticipantAnyone following the minor league spring training games today? They open against the Miami affiliates.
March 17, 2023 at 2:03 pm #214147VerHagen has an incredible slider, his fastball location is his issue
March 17, 2023 at 9:13 pm #214158Just want to say that I still love the banned shift. The game this year is being played the way it is supposed to be played, IMHO. It is back to being much more like the game I grew up watching. It’s so much more enjoyable now. Batting averages are going to be a lot more meaningful again. I couldn’t even count how many balls went through the infield that would have been caught by having the whole infield on one side, or the other side, of 2B. This has been happening all spring.
March 17, 2023 at 10:16 pm #214160I forget which game I watched this past week but I noticed Olie using the LH relievers against exclusive RH hitters. I thoughy that was smart tô evaluate the lefties against righties as well as lefties
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