2023 Draft

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    UDFA signing

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    Does the UDFA from Army have to serve his stint in the military before playing pro ball? The football and basketball players from the academies usually have to although sometimes they are granted waivers.

    Edit: After actually reading the twitter article I found more information.

    Friedrick, 22, will report to the Cardinals minor-league complex in Jupiter, Fla. Friday for a physical and the signing of his contract. He’s likely to start his pro career with the Cardinals’ Florida Complex (Rookie) League team in Jupiter.

    Friedrick commissioned as a field artillery officer upon graduating from West Point in May. Friedrick’s active duty has been delayed to pursue his baseball dream.

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    gscottar – That delay is highly unusual for a service academy graduate. They’ve invested a lot of money into his academics and military training and I would think they would want to get a return on that investment sooner than later.

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    Just a curiosity – if Richardson had gone undrafted would there have been a cap on his signing amount?

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    A bill was put before Congress last December that closed the loophole on service academy graduates getting a waiver. The new bill requires them to serve for 2 years right after graduation. I believe that new bill passed.

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    So is Friedrick not going to be able to report to Jupiter after all?

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    Just a curiosity – if Richardson had gone undrafted would there have been a cap on his signing amount?

    The cap for undrafted free agents is $150k

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    Welp, sucks they wasted such a high pick on this guy.

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    maybe dump the money in the high school kids driveway.

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    maybe dump the money in the high school kids driveway.

    If a pick in the first 10 rounds doesn’t sign the bonus allotment gets forfeited.

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    This from the MiLB Transactions page. A couple later round draft picks assigned to rosters I guess.

    08/03/23 RHP Jacob Odle assigned to FCL Cardinals. (14th round)
    08/03/23 RHP Hunter Kublick assigned to FCL Cardinals. (18th round)

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    After reading Brian’s article on STL’s need for more strikeout type pitchers, this lead me to review the 2023 draft and the pitchers drafted. Sounds like there are a number of projectable arms here. But we really don’t know much about them since most of them weren’t given many innings at the pro level.

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    most of them weren’t given many innings at the pro level

    I’ve wondered about that trend, most first year drafted pitchers only getting a cameo in game action. Some lower value college pitchers drafted down a few rounds getting thrown into A level ball seems like the only variance from that. I don’t know how much of that is a consequence of not having the short season squads. It seems like it might be just the latest and greatest discovery about how to do baseball. I imagine it is prevalent across the board with few if any teams doing anything different. It seems like it would be hard to make a convincing case that it is working.

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    The main reason in the change in pitcher usage in the draft year is the greater time gap between the end of the high school and college seasons and the mid-July draft. As you may remember, the draft was traditionally held in June until a few years ago.

    Hitters can restart swinging any time, but pitchers had already thrown a lot of innings and likely did not maintain anywhere near the same regimen once their seasons ended.

    A few guys in recent years, Graceffo being an example, went right into summer ball and kept going. So he made 11 appearances with Palm Beach his first year. Still it was just 26 innings. Of course, there is injury risk playing summer ball so the top guys whose status is already cemented probably wouldn’t want to chance getting hurt.

    After draft picks sign, they report to Jupiter and they medical and development people meet with each player and decide what is best for him. Everyone throws on the side. Some go to teams. Some do not.

    P.S. As much as I was sorry to see the two short-season levels go away, I don’t think it has much impact on college pitchers. They seem to be ready for Low-A, but I guess the ones who aren’t have to be the next spring. On the other hand, it is clearly tougher for high schoolers and international players to have to make the big jump from the FCL initially to Palm Beach later.

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    Thanks for the rundown. I think that for a good while the HS kids went to FCL or JC and the
    college kids mostly straight to the NY-Penn team or maybe A-.

    I guess they must think they can evaluate progress and potential based on measuring stuff in side sessions. There just isn’t room for a decent amount of game innings.

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